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Today's Topics:
1. (no subject) (jesse cavazos)
2. Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American (Marlene Rzepkowski)
3. Re: Duraspark parts problem, was Trunnion installation/help
wanted (Ken Ames)
4. Re: Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American (Matt Haas)
5. Re: all projects on hold (Arthur Litchfield)
6. Re: 1986 Jeep Cherokee clattering valves and black smoke
(Frank Swygert)
7. Re: Motorola Volt Reg (Frank Swygert)
8. Re: Matador weatherstrip (Frank Swygert)
9. Re: Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American (Frank Swygert)
10. Are AMX values too low? (Michael Bailey)
11. Getting an '87 Eagle Wagon (Wm. Neal Lewis)
12. 68 AMX for sale (Eddie Stakes)
13. 67 Ambassador convertible wanted (Eddie Stakes)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:56:05 -0500
From: "jesse cavazos" <jessesaves_390@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] (no subject)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:13:16 -0400
From: "Marlene Rzepkowski" <mrzepkow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American
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List,
I have a 1965 Rambler American 440 Convertible. The rear quarters are badly rusted around the wheel wells. Is there anyone making replacement sheet metal? Any other suggestions on getting the right stuff to initiate repairs? There is a unique, bumped out feature that starts at the wheel well and runs to the back bumper that looks tough to re-create by hand so a repair panel would be a big help.
Suggestions please!
Marlene Rz.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:39:46 -0600
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Duraspark parts problem, was Trunnion
installation/help wanted
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Perhaps the gap wasn't as large on some of mine, but I did once tape a paper
clip onto the rotor to close the gap. Didn't make any difference that time.
Ken
Quoting Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>:
>
>
> I'm having a hell of a time with something I thought would be a
> no-brainer -- cap and rotor! The Ford TFI type, for the AMC six.
>
> Caps are expensive! Bought one plus a rotor. Installed (this was
> nearly 2 months ago now, I've been really busy), did mild tuneup,
> drove off... horrible sputtering and breakup on the highway,
> or anything over 2000 - 2500 rpm.
>
> To make a long story short, the rotor tip did not meet the cap
> contact! Nearly 1/4" away. The old part (still in there now)
> the gap was 1/16" or so. Spark bridged the gap OK (good spark!)
> but not enough spark to the plug at high speed. Idled just
> fine though.
>
> I carefully measured from the rotor axis center to the tip --
> it's far too short. Both cap and reotor same brand, BLUE STREAK.
> Brought 'em back to the store, we checked all of stock, all the
> same, even the grey one (other brand, name forgotten). All the
> same size!
>
> Anyone else have this problem?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:42:04 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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You'll either have to find NOS or good used ones. You may also want to take
a look at eBay, I think there's a pair on there now but I may be wrong
about that. For good used sheet metal, I've had very good luck with South
Texas AMC (http://southtexasamc.tripod.com). If you're planning on hitting
the AMO Nationals in Dayton, OH (July 28 and 29), you may find something there.
Also, the wheel wells on your car probably have rust issues as well. If
you're lucky, it's just around the lip but there are lots of places that
got no paint from the factory so the damage is probably a lot worse than
you think it is.
Matt
At 09:13 PM 7/19/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>List,
>I have a 1965 Rambler American 440 Convertible. The rear quarters are
>badly rusted around the wheel wells. Is there anyone making replacement
>sheet metal? Any other suggestions on getting the right stuff to initiate
>repairs? There is a unique, bumped out feature that starts at the wheel
>well and runs to the back bumper that looks tough to re-create by hand so
>a repair panel would be a big help.
>Suggestions please!
>Marlene Rz.
>
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mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:05:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all projects on hold
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:21:46 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1986 Jeep Cherokee clattering valves and black
smoke
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Howard, I'm in agreement with Andrew, it that helps! The black smoke
and sooty plugs are a classic indicator of running rich (assuming they
are dry, and the soot in the tailpipe is dry -- if they are "greasy"
black that's burning oil). The loss of power gradually is a classic
sign of a stopped up catalytic converter. As pressure inside the
tailpipe increases, the engine has to work harder just to try to push
the exhaust out, so power decreases and you have to apply more and more
throttle. Yours obviously isn't plugged all the way, but I'd remove or
replace it. If you can unbolt it for now the thing would be loud, but
you can tell right away if you have to increase throttle or not to get
it to idle right. You also need to replace the oxygen sensor. That
tells the carb how to adjust the idle mixture. I wouldn't do that until
rebuilding the carb, or getting a factory rebuilt replacement. The
later is more expensive, but also the best move. There is at least one
stepper motor in that carb that might need replacing.
With the cost of the carb, you might be better off getting the EFI
system from a 89-93 S-10 or Camaro 2.8L from a salvage yard, or the
entire engine. The wiring isn't that difficult, and you'd end up with a
lot better power and economy. You can't put a 4.0L in that year without
a lot of firewall work (87+ has about a 2" recess in the firewall for
the 4.0L). If you find a nice 2.5L four it will have more power than
your well worn 2.8L V-6 and will bolt right up to the trans. Of course
you would need the flywheel (and torque converter if auto) and engine
mounts for the four. AMC bought the 2.8L V-6 to have a six cylinder
option, but the carbed version only has a little more power than the
AMC 2.5L four. Not enough to be worth the additional os when they were
new in my opinion, something a lot of people here share -- and not just
because it's a GM engine in an AMC -- it's a crappy GM engine even when
in a GM!!
> " From: Howard.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> "
> " Hi;
> " I am a new member located in Limington Maine. I have owned one
other AMC
> " product years ago, a 1973 model I bought non running for $50. Ran
it for
> " 6 months with a slippling clutch and sold it for $25. Nice engine
never
> " smoked. Anyway, this week I purchased a non running 1986 Jeep
Cherokee
> " with a 5 speed transmission and 2.8L V6 engine. I replaced the
fuel pump
> " and installed a new radiator and battery and started it up. Hasn't
run
> " for about 5 months. Started a little hard but it ran. It sounded
like a
> " sewing machine but the oil pressure was 40PSI so I let it run a
while. As
> " it warmed up it ran slower and slower so I cranked the mechanical
throttle
> " stop up to compensate for the time being. AFter 15minutes the oil
> " pressure was down to 15PSI and the exhaust was black and RPM were
down to
> " 550 with the mechanical throttle stop all the way out. It finally
stopped
> " running.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:33:10 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Motorola Volt Reg
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Kent, check the club store at www.amcrc.com. I think they have a repro
already. If not the AMC vendors do.
On July 19, 2006 KENT ANDERSON wrote:
> Would anyone, by any chance, have a real good photo of the Motorola
VR12AM18 Voltage Regulator label? I want to reproduce it for my
Typhoon project, and need a really good shot of it. I can ALMOST make
out all the printing, but not quite.
>
> Thanks,
> Kenny
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:38:46 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Matador weatherstrip
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Check with Peter Stathes, www.amcrambler.com. He can make the strips
for the door windows in the fuzzy stuff or rubber. I had him make
rubber style for my 63 Classic. I know it's not original, but works
better, and my car's just "slightly" modified anyway. I also had him
make a wider squeege type for the wagon tailgate window. The original
left a bit of a gap that lets way to much trash in the gate, causing it
to rust out in the bottom. The door profie on the 75 Mat sedan and
wagon is the same as 67-70 Rebels, so the weatherstrip and window
sweeps should be the same.
On July 19, 2006 Richard Estermyer wrote:
> I asked this before but I misplaced the valuable information. I have
the
> 1975 Matador Wagon and wondered if there was someone that has
> weatherstripping and extras for the windows.
>
> Thanks again,
> See You At Dayton!
>
> Richard
>
> Richard Estermyer
> 6235 S. Mohawk Avenue
> Ypsilanti, MI 48197
>
> 734.483.5187 evenings
> 734.417.9456 NEW cell
> javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:41:32 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Sheet metal -1965 Rambler American
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Also note that 64 and 65 have the same profile, so either year will
work. 67-69 are different, unfortunately. I agree, the crease would be
difficult to hand form, but it is possible. May have to do it in more
than one section and weld in.
On July 19, 2006 Matt Haas wrote:
> You'll either have to find NOS or good used ones. You may also want
to take
> a look at eBay, I think there's a pair on there now but I may be
wrong
> about that. For good used sheet metal, I've had very good luck with
South
> Texas AMC (http://southtexasamc.tripod.com). If you're planning on
hitting
> the AMO Nationals in Dayton, OH (July 28 and 29), you may find
something there.
>
> Also, the wheel wells on your car probably have rust issues as well.
If
> you're lucky, it's just around the lip but there are lots of places
that
> got no paint from the factory so the damage is probably a lot worse
than
> you think it is.
>
> Matt
>
> At 09:13 PM 7/19/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> >List,
> >I have a 1965 Rambler American 440 Convertible. The rear quarters
are
> >badly rusted around the wheel wells. Is there anyone making
replacement
> >sheet metal? Any other suggestions on getting the right stuff to
initiate
> >repairs? There is a unique, bumped out feature that starts at the
wheel
> >well and runs to the back bumper that looks tough to re-create by
hand so
> >a repair panel would be a big help.
> >Suggestions please!
> >Marlene Rz.
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >AMC-List mailing list
> >AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
> >
> >or go to http://www.amc-list.com
>
> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com
> 1967 Rambler American wagon
> 1968 Rambler American sedan
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> UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
> not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Are AMX values too low?
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68 AMX on Epage:
http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/1849361.html
Eddie: Seen this one on Ebay? Dreamer or scammer? OR
is this really exactly what we want to do? Just ask
what they "should be" worth, since they don't even
sell at what they "are" worth.
mike
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:21:23 -0500
From: "Wm. Neal Lewis" <wnlewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Getting an '87 Eagle Wagon
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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My wife and I plan to pick up an '87 Eagle Wagon that we have been paying for.
Two things will need to be worked on before we drive it very far. I will
need to fix some holes in the exhaust system. That seems fairly easy to me:
Coffee cans, tin snips, exhaust compound and baling wire. If my take on the
matter is incorrect, please set me straight. I also expect for there to be
ample room to crawl under the car to do the repair work. When we get the
car home, we will get a proper exhaust system put on it.
Second item to fix. The rear brakes need to be adjusted. If they are like
most drum brakes, there is a star wheel that can be advanced or retracted
to set the clearance. That is done while rotating the wheel by hand until
just a little friction is felt. Again, let me know if that is incorrect. It
has been about twenty years since I did work on brakes. But then again, the
car is about that old too.
The other thing that needs work is the carb. That, I am told is a touchy
business. So I will just keep it running and not slow down much.
What kind of mileage should I expect from a wagon in reasonable mechanical
condition (cylinder pressure is 135 lbs. plus or minus 10%) on a 4.2 liter
6.
Thanks for the input.
I hope to start restoring it after I get it home.
Neal Lewis
Carrie L. Lewis - Horse Painter
Member of The Equine Art Guild
http://www.Carrie-Lewis.com
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:21:14 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 68 AMX for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: reidwatson1968@xxxxxxxxx
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'68 AMX, 390, 4-speed, red w/white stripes, black interior. Engine rebuilt,
balanced, Comp Cam, Edelbrock Performer Air Gap, Holly 650, MSD, Ceramic
coated headers, Trendsetter side-pipes, Power brakes, Power steering,
Goodyear Eagles, 15" Magnum 500 wheels. Looks good, sounds good, drives
good! Reid Watson reidwatson1968@xxxxxxxxx 601-523-2844
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ain't mine, anyone interested give Reid a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:22:48 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 67 Ambassador convertible wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: mark h <mdh157@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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WANTED: Addendum to previous ad - (68 Ambassador wanted) - I will also
consider a '67 Ambassador convertible with the 343-4v motor, must be running
or able to be running with only minor work and body must be clean and
straight. if you have a car and aren't sure if it fits the criteria, email
em and we will find out! mdh157@xxxxxxxxxxx Mark Hoban (717)249-4702
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anyone with a Ambassador ragtop for sale give Mark a shout above, thanks,
*Mark, if you go back in the SUAD lists on my site, about 8 months ago a
ultra sweet one was/is for sale in FL.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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