Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question
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Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question



Trivia: All International Harvester engines had to have standard size 
bores as well as standard size crankshafts.  Oversize bores and 
undersize crankshafts not allowed.

Peter Marano
Kenosha WI

>Message: 12
>Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:23:27 -0600
>From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>I believe the BB is referring only to engines built for IHC pickups and similar
>sized vehicles. The V-401 and V-461 were used in trucks like 2ton and larger. 
>
>Ken 
>
>Quoting msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx:
>
>  
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>>AMC 304's were not used in IH vehicles.  The 304 was an IH motor.  If you
>>find a red 304, I would assume it was just an emissions model that Frank
>>referred to and the red paint is just a coincidence with respect to IH.  IH
>>also didn't make a "400" or a "401" of their own according to
>>BinderBulletin.org.  The largest IH-made V8 displaced 392ci and they call it
>>"the 392".  However, I agree that they referred to the AMC 401 as a "400".
>>
>>See below for some search results from BB.  You'll have to scroll through
>>some of it due to some random search hits.
>>
>>
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>http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=AMC+232+258+304+401&match=any&titlesonly=0
>  
>
>>Try different search combinations including the keyword "AMC".  It coughs up
>>some bits of info regarding special tools to service AMC drivetrains and
>>transmissions in the IH world.
>>
>>
>>
>>-Spro
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
>>    
>>
>>>John, you got that backwards! IHC made a 401 for their bigger trucks
>>>before they started using the AMC 401 in their pickups and Travelalls.
>>>IHC called the AMC V-8 a "400" to help prevent confusion by their
>>>dealers/parts people. So the parts from an IHC 401 won't fit an AMC
>>>401, but parts from an IHC 400 will interchange with the AMC 401. 
>>>
>>>As stated, all were painted red and all IHC 401s came with a 2V carb
>>>stock, no factory 4Vs as I recall. The 2V carb was the only deviation
>>>from the AMC version. The 304 and 258 were the same as used by AMC
>>>except for the red paint (AMC did paint some CA spec engines red in the 
>>>late 60s or early 70s though). 
>>>
>>>On July 16, 2006 John Elle wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Roy
>>>>International used AMC engines in some of their applications. I have
>>>>seen 401s, 304's and some I-6 engines. They were painted red.
>>>>SNIP
>>>>In Need Of a 401 Crank! Perfer standard on rods and mains But,email
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>me
>>>      
>>>
>>>>with
>>>>what you got!
>>>>Or do you know if an IH crank would fit?
>>>>SNIP
>>>>However there is absolutely no relationship between the 400 cubic
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Inch
>>>      
>>>
>>>>International engine and the 401 AMC engine. There are no parts that
>>>>will interchange at all.
>>>>        
>>>>
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