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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: best oil filter for a 390? (Jim Blair)
   2. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 (Poncho7amx@xxxxxxx)
   3. Re: best oil filter for a 390? (Ken Ames)
   4. Re: best oil filter for a 390? (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
   5. Re: 4/5 speed on 196 (Jim Blair)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:52:46 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] best oil filter for a 390?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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A: The 4.0L changed filters at some point ('91 to '93ish) from a 51626 
(metric thread http://tinyurl.com/o5qc6 ) to 51085 (std thread) to match the 
Mopar fleet. A 304 CJ should use a 51258 (along with most other AMC V8s). 
http://wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

There is more to a filter than just the Oring and thread size! If you go to 
an oversize filter, I suggest you also prefill it (so the motor isn't 
running dry on startup) and get one with an anti-drainback valve  (ditto) 
Hopefully no-one else will have the heartache of a customer we had last week 
who built a new AMC motor and had a Fram collapse (he dutifully changed it 
but didn't know chunks of it were jammed inside the oil pump outlet) in less 
than 100 miles, making his engine an EXPEN$IVE PO$.


From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] best oil filter for a 390?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I use an oversize Mobil1 filter on everything.  Just pulled the
stock application off the shelf and matched the thread/diameter
with the biggest one there.  To be honest, my CJ hasn't run in
so long that I forget whether the 304 I swapped in shares the
same filter thread/diameter with the 4.0.  Anyway, FYI the big
Mobil1 MI-301 fits the 4.0.  If the 4.0 is the same as the V8's
(and 258's), there you go.  I'm out-of-town right now, or I
would go out in the barn and verify.

Before I switched to synthetic in everything, I used Wix. I had
the opportunity to witness a Wix cut open next to a Fram by the
Dana salesman at a parts store I worked at in high school.


http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=4097

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=4101


-Spro

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 13:21:39 EDT
From: Poncho7amx@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
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does any one no when the chilson show is in p.a.


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:45:42 -0600
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] best oil filter for a 390?
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hmmm 51_258_   

I wonder if that's just a coincidence. Should make the part number eaiser to
remember. :)

Ken 

Quoting Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> A: The 4.0L changed filters at some point ('91 to '93ish) from a 51626 
> (metric thread http://tinyurl.com/o5qc6 ) to 51085 (std thread) to match the
> 
> Mopar fleet. A 304 CJ should use a 51258 (along with most other AMC V8s). 
> http://wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
> 




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:18:21 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] best oil filter for a 390?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<070420061918.23721.44AABEFD000BBF7500005CA92206998499019D0A0790019D9F9C03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
	

Yeah, I mentioned that I was running over 6 quarts in a 4.0 (because I filled the filter) in that first thread that I linked to.  I prefill all the filters regardless of size anyway.  I'll use that Wix number you posted and figure out the Mobil1 filter number this weekend, although I think I already know which one it is.  The other numbers you listed will also be helpful in IDing the rest of the Wix filters I havesitting around.  I really need to start writing applications on the boxes.

-Spro


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> A: The 4.0L changed filters at some point ('91 to '93ish) from a 51626 
> (metric thread http://tinyurl.com/o5qc6 ) to 51085 (std thread) to match the 
> Mopar fleet. A 304 CJ should use a 51258 (along with most other AMC V8s). 
> http://wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
> 
> There is more to a filter than just the Oring and thread size! If you go to 
> an oversize filter, I suggest you also prefill it (so the motor isn't 
> running dry on startup) and get one with an anti-drainback valve  (ditto) 
> Hopefully no-one else will have the heartache of a customer we had last week 
> who built a new AMC motor and had a Fram collapse (he dutifully changed it 
> but didn't know chunks of it were jammed inside the oil pump outlet) in less 
> than 100 miles, making his engine an EXPEN$IVE PO$.
> 
> 
> From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] best oil filter for a 390?
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 
> <070420060817.4633.44AA24290001481C000012192200737478019D0A0790019D9F9C03@comcas
> t.net>
> 
> 
> I use an oversize Mobil1 filter on everything.  Just pulled the
> stock application off the shelf and matched the thread/diameter
> with the biggest one there.  To be honest, my CJ hasn't run in
> so long that I forget whether the 304 I swapped in shares the
> same filter thread/diameter with the 4.0.  Anyway, FYI the big
> Mobil1 MI-301 fits the 4.0.  If the 4.0 is the same as the V8's
> (and 258's), there you go.  I'm out-of-town right now, or I
> would go out in the barn and verify.
> 
> Before I switched to synthetic in everything, I used Wix. I had
> the opportunity to witness a Wix cut open next to a Fram by the
> Dana salesman at a parts store I worked at in high school.
> 
> 
> http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=4097
> 
> http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=4101
> 
> 
> -Spro
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:31:24 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 4/5 speed on 196
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Just a thought here, but a shallow bell early with a spacer between it and 
the trans (similar to the one Http://darkhorseperformance.com has for T5 to 
early Ford bells) should work.

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