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Questions (Mr. AMC) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:51 -0400 From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060630.165851.3864.0.superglider@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know. I let that one go cause I had a 67 Ambo 990 wagon with the 290. I was more interested in what 66 model year cars came with the 290. Wayne Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY, http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/ AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto 69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC 88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck 2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers) On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:48:15 -0500 Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> writes: > Frank had to say this in his post about Gen to Gen 2 changeover - > "at > least not in 67 (I don't think the Ambo ever got a 290 or 304)." > Frank, > the 67up Ambassadors did come with 6-cylinders, the 290 and then in > 70, > 71 for sure, the 304 was available in Ambassadors. > > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx > 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 > JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!! > '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, > CORDOVA, IL > AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060630210441.98917.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is there supposed to be a six hole spacer behind or in front of the flex plate in a 70s (904 tranny) 258 six? If so: in front (towards engine) or behind (towards tranny)? Thanks, Joe Fulton Salinas, CA ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060630210941.75724.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Never mind folks. I found a diagram. Thanks, Joe Fulton Salinas, CA ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:29:09 -0400 From: "Jim Boone" <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY116-F2CFD2B71F35282EAC1F52AC7D0@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Nick, Not to sound like a D-A, but even with forged rods & pistons, you still have a cast crank. Wouldn't that still be a weak link on a high power engine? I do have a spare 360, maybe it's time to rethink that one... Jim Boone Mims, FL >From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods > >Well, after about a year, they are finally done. We >now have forged I-beam rods for the smaller engines >along with new forgings for the 390 and 401. These >are 4340 forging in the 5.875 length. The small end >is bushed for .930 floating pins (I have full floating >Ross pistons to with these) and come with 8740 ARP cap >screw bolts. These are not some other make rods that >are altered to fit an AMC. These were made >specifically for the 290-360 engines. > >These are able to handle up to 800hp but more >importantly, they are a great upgrade from our stock >cast rods in the smaller engines. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:02:18 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Rebel Rear Control Arm/bushing/arm interchange question To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: scamp340@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <027d01c69c8d$ab7f8260$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MessageThe folsk below are looking for some aftermarket possibilites for arms, and some bushings. Anyone that might be able to point them in right direction or help out please feel free to reply and also copy your reply to them below, thanks in advance to all who comment. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *email is currently HEAVY Call if important* www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Coley, Sandy J. scamp340@xxxxxxx To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Rebel Rear Control Arm/bushing Hello, I own a 1970 Rebel Machine w/4spd & I'm in need of the rear upper control arm busing(s) if available and if not, a used upper control arm w/bushings?? if also not available, do you know whether any of the aftermarket arms I've seen available for non-AMC vehicles will work? appreciate any info you can provide..... thanks.... please respond to me at scamp340@xxxxxxx ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:07:32 -0400 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: [AMC-List] Starting New Project For the Orange Hornet To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <28454-44A5A0A4-289@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII While waiting for on going work to be completed after the holiday weekend and being stuck in the house due to the rain heat and humidity it is time to see about the next project. With the windshield lettering tinted job completed I need to start on the next project. I went through my parts closet and got out all my 77 AMX fender flairs and front air dam. I bought a set with some extras a few years ago from a tip on eBay from a member of Bart's Gremlin group that I am a member of. This turned out to be a real good tip as I bought extra parts from the guy I bought the flairs from and his brother. One brother in N.C. and the other in northern N.Y. State. I picked out the best 4 for the rear wheel wells. 3 of the 4 are painted and the 3'rd is the natural red plastic color. It's time to get out the SEM bumper stripper and get on to starting stripping the flairs this weekend. I did a test last year and the SEM strips the paint off the flairs without damaging the plastic. SEM also makes a bumper primer which I will use. I have a gallon of Sherman Williams acrylic enamel the color of the car to paint the flairs with but will need some tints make it match right. I also have the Impact 200 additive to keep the paint flexible and prevent cracking like the paint that is on there now. The wife was happy to see the grill and headlight doors out of the house. She hasn't noticed the 4 flairs that miraculously appeared from thin air here now this afternoon. SHAZZZZZAAAAAMMMMMMMM What fender flairs?????? :-) "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:58:33 -0700 From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 1981 AMC Spirit For Sale Portland, OR To: "AMC-List" <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <001901c69c98$b6d6a480$6400a8c0@ralphs1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Am forwarding this info to the AMC-List group. (See www.amxfiles.com) This one sounds likeit has potential. Call or email this seller for more particulars. Thanks, ______________________________________________________________ Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx> http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links" ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellie Carraway To: ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: AMC Spirit Hey, I got this email address from the Classic AMX club of portland website. My husband and I are looking to sell his 1981 AMC Spirit. It's in great shape...lots of engine stuff has been rebuilt, runs like a champ. 80,000 original miles. We're moving to Austin and only my car is coming with. I thought I would give your club a shot...it's a great car and if y'all are fans then someone might really like this one. We're looking to sell in the next week. If anyone is interested email me or call me at 503-473-2134. Thanks Ellie ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:01:25 -0600 From: aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Them's the brakes? To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <44A5AD45.9030908@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have a 1982 Spirit 6cyl, 5 speed, the brake pedal sits out to far, further out than the cluth pedal, and a further than normal from the accelerator. I noted a 2nd hole lower in the pedal from where the brake pushrod connects to it. Will changing to the lower hole, move the pedal in? will the brakes still function and not jam up? or is there adjustment on the end of the pushrod where in fits into the master cyl. The car has manual front disk brakes. Want to get this fixed as it its kind of a saftey issue as my knee will hit the steering wheel if i not careful when braking. Thanks ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:37:58 -0700 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Them's the brakes? To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <27128303.1151721478405.JavaMail.root@web28> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sounds like someine has put the worng master on it? If you move the manual disc car to the lower hole you will find it hard to stop as the two holes are intended for the difference in leverage needed between power and manual brakes The upper hole gives you a better ratio for manual brakes. You could always try the lower hole, but be very careful as it may proove difficult to stop. Try buying a master for the car and checking to see if the rod is that same length. When I changed my 79 Mustang manual disc master out in my American for a leak the one I got was boxed wrong and the pushrod was too short. I had to take it back and they pulled another from the shelf and it had the correct length rod with it. -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have a 1982 Spirit 6cyl, 5 speed, the brake pedal sits out to far, > further out than the cluth pedal, and a further than normal from the > accelerator. I noted a 2nd hole lower in the pedal from where the brake > pushrod connects to it. Will changing to the lower hole, move the pedal > in? will the brakes still function and not jam up? or is there > adjustment on the end of the pushrod where in fits into the master cyl. > The car has manual front disk brakes. > Want to get this fixed as it its kind of a saftey issue as my knee will > hit the steering wheel if i not careful when braking. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:45:22 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Crankshaft Identification To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "D. A. DAVIS" <ddavis@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <045701c69cca$debccd80$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Anyone that can help the folsk out below feel free to reply and copy it to them and thanks in advance to all who reply. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *email is currently HEAVY Call if important* www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. A. DAVIS" <ddavis@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: Crankshaft Identification I need your help to identify a crankshaft. I'm building a 4.6L stroker engine for my ZJ, and I'm confused about my crankshaft. The crank engine came out of a 1983 Jeep CJ7, and had a metal valve cover. I thought it was a early 258. My crank had the casting number 3235477, which is identified by the chart on your website as a 258 lightweight with 10 counter weights. My crankshaft has 4 counter weights. When I first saw that it had 4 counter weights, I thought it was a 232 crankshaft. The engine was not the original one in the CJ7. The person I got from told me that he had put the engine in it. This block used the large head bolts as well. If you've got any ideas about it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 01:58:46 -0500 From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200607010158.46666.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Good. What's the correct answer? Todd On Friday 30 June 2006 16:09, JOE FULTON wrote: > Never mind folks. I found a diagram. > > Thanks, > Joe Fulton > Salinas, CA > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 05:41:06 -0400 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: [AMC-List] Two Hornet/Gremlin Inst. Questions To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <28455-44A64332-182@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII One, what year did AMC start putting kilometers on the speedo's? And two what year did they change the ohms on the fuel tank sender? "Doc" ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 **************************************