AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39
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Today's Topics:
1. Progress (Mr. AMC)
2. Transmission Rebuilders (Jim Boone)
3. 65 American speedo (Gary L. Kirk)
4. Speedo Principle (JOE FULTON)
5. Re: car for sale, auto trans fluid question (Sandwich Maker)
6. Cleaning the Bottles? (JOE FULTON)
7. AMC being revived thread on Mopar site (Eddie Stakes)
8. Re: Cleaning the Bottles? (Tom Jennings)
9. Known Issues on AMC V8's (Todd Tomason)
10. Fw: LI Classic Cars June Newsletter (Eddie Stakes)
11. AMC Stuff For Sale (Archimedes)
12. Re: 65 American speedo (Frank Swygert)
13. Re: AMC being revived thread on Mopar site (Frank Swygert)
14. Re: Report from the desert (Todd Tomason)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:19:00 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Progress
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <3559-449544B4-352@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
Yesterday I got the tranny oil cooler hooked up in conjunction with the
one in the radiator. The cooling fan was another thing. The installation
kit did not have the sensor in it to operate the fan automatically so
for now it is wired up to run when the ignition is on till I can get the
part. The billet over flow can turned ot to be more work than I thought
to polish it out myself but I am working on it. 20$ saved over buying a
polished one is still 20$. Besides the pain in the a$$ I am I would
probably have to re-polish the polished one to my satisfaction. The
front bumper still needs to come off to mount the last screw in the fan
and tranny cooler mounting brackets. The aluminum tranny pan goes on
next week and then the infamous grill goes back in too. Happy fathers
day to all of you fathers. Later I will be sitting in front of the boob
tube watching the NASCAR and race hand polishing my over flow tank.
"Doc"
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:59:00 -0400
From: "Jim Boone" <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Transmission Rebuilders
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY116-F3755F515D531126A3689FEAC810@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Does anyone have any suggestions/good-bad experiances with an auto
transmission rebuilder. Someone national like TCI, etc?
If I decide to go with the 727 under my bench, it'll need to be gone
through, and I won't mess with it myself.
There's lots of shops both locally and on the internet, many making big
claims, just want to know more...
Jim Boone
Mims, FL
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:08:50 -0400
From: "Gary L. Kirk" <glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 65 American speedo
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <001801c692f1$7d28fe50$6701a8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Does anyone know anything much about the speedo on a 65 American convertible. It seems to be made by King Seeley. I can't figure out how it is supposed to work and what causes it to work and or not work. Is it magnetic or?
Thanks, Gary Kirk
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Speedo Principle
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Gary,
It's magnetic and I think it was manufactured by
King-Seeley.
Here's a website which somewhat explains the workings:
http://www.innerauto.com/Automotive_Systems/Drive_Train/Speedometer~odometer/
Regards,
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:57:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] car for sale, auto trans fluid question
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200606182057.k5IKvNj27486@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "house-of-travel@xxxxxxxxxx" <house-of-travel@xxxxxxxxxx>
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" What trans fluid do I use in a 64 232 Automatic Rambler? Can fin the previous bottle. Thanks Bob
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" Bargain Bob Petersen
dexron is the universal replacement for everything but the old ['70s
at the latest, maybe earlier] fords.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:34:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Cleaning the Bottles?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I am trying to clean up a 77 Gremlin X and put it back
on the road.
The radiator expansion bottle is filthy inside because
there was oil in the cooling system in the past. The
windshield washer bottle is not much cleaner either.
I am looking for tips to cleaning these bottles and
trying to make them white again.
I have tried Simple Green and Puple Power. Does
anyone have any other suggestions? Automatic
dishwasher? anything else?
Regards,
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:16:46 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC being revived thread on Mopar site
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01ad01c69333$787470f0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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Mike Wilson sent me this, it is interesting but no names provided on
'insiders'
http://hemi.l3it3r.com/?permalink=1104
about AMC possibly being revived.
I also wrote back Mike this:
"Won't happen. You will however see bits and pieces. From the current
Chrysler 300 grill identical to the 72 Ambassador grill, to the possible
intro of the new Hornet series. But bringing back American Motors won't
happen. You can also go to the government tradmark site and research it, DCX
let the trademark slip years ago and someone in California bought the rights
to the name, not that they will do anything with it except sit on it, sort
of like internet squatters I guess. I would like to see some names revived
like Ambassador and Javelin but again, don't think it will happen, now or
2010. DCX does need some low end cheepie if you will, brand to compete with
a variet fo under $14K cars on the market. And they can do it. However
reviving a automaker that constantly had surnames like 'struggling' or 'in
financial trouble' plastered in front of it in the 70s thru it's demise
won't happen as people will still have a negative memory of it. Not us, we
are AMCers! But the buying public will remember and I guarantee you and will
be more than willing to bet you some beers: that the first thing out of the
press, whether automotive or otherwise, mouths would be "the failed
automaker that used to make Gremlin and Pacer". Not the image DCX wants, nor
needs in 2006, nor 2010. They did make a Hornet, and Matador and Edsel had a
Pacer all in the late 50s/early 60s, so who knows, maybe they start with
Hornet, then Rebel or Matador, but my money will beon the Hornet name being
revived, but NOT anything AMC name due to the stigma unfortuately still
associated with it."
I guess not what everyone would want to hear, however, realistic I guess.
:~P
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:17:12 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Cleaning the Bottles?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1150679833.15340.1.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 16:34 -0700, JOE FULTON wrote:
> The radiator expansion bottle is filthy inside because
> there was oil in the cooling system in the past. The
> windshield washer bottle is not much cleaner either.
> I have tried Simple Green and Puple Power. Does
> anyone have any other suggestions? Automatic
> dishwasher? anything else?
If the plastic is stained maybe not much you can do, but what helps me
is a fistful of gravel rocks or junk hardware, with purple cleaner, then
shake. It'll scrape crud loose in places you can't reach.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:23:37 -0500
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Known Issues on AMC V8's
To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200606182023.37421.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I remember someone listing out three or four known issues when rebuilding an
AMC V8, but I couldn't find the old email. In particular I remember the
discussion being that rebuilding an AMC motor wasn't any worse than another
make as long as you knew the quirks. Can anybody list them out for me?
Thanks,
Todd
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:45:28 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: LI Classic Cars June Newsletter
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <028801c6935b$5938cec0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Non AMC related but Long Island Classic Cars up near Doc, some of ya'll might want to read this newsletter. AMC related however is if I recall, the editor or owner is brother of longtime AMC vendord Gerard Borgo on my vendors list, Gerard, hell, I remember him vending back in the early 80s! Good fellow.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
To: newsletter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: LI Classic Cars June Newsletter
"Time to make the doughnuts..."
Here is the link to the Long Island Classic Cars.com Newsletter for June 2006.
SO MANY late nights into the wee hours of the morning working on this...
I feel like that poor smedrick from those old D&D commercials who was so tired all the time.
Just click on the link below, or copy and paste it into your browser and you will be enjoying our latest musings on all things automotive!
Check out the latest happenings in the local collector car hobby, plus some interesting stories and articles!
Be sure to maximize your screen for best viewing.
Happy reading!
http://www.liclassiccars.com/Newsletter/Jun06.html
Pete
Long Island Classic Cars
www.liclassiccars.com
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:34:56 -0400
From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Stuff For Sale
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060608210830.01cefde8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
C'mon, guys, help me out here. I need to sell some stuff soon -- downsizing!!
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AMC CARS FOR SALE
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69 Ambassador 2 door hardtop orig. 290 2 bbl car
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http://hasdrubal.tripod.com/AMC-69Amb2drHT/69ambassador.html
69 Ambassador 2 door hardtop orig. 390 4 bbl car
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1801712.html
69 Ambassador Wagon 343 4 bbl PARTS CAR
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1803653.html
69 Rebel 4 dr sedan PARTS CAR
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1803641.html
71 Ambassador 4 door sedan 360 4 bbl
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http://hasdrubal.tripod.com/71ambassador.html
71 Ambassador Wagon PARTS CAR
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1803645.html
77 Matador Wagon PARTS CAR
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1803642.html
78 Matador Sedan PARTS CAR
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1803648.html
79 Spirit, 232 3 spd
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http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1739874.html
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AMC PARTS
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64-5 Rambler American front chrome trim (grille, headlight bezels, upper
and lower long trim pieces), $50.
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66 Classic body parts -- hood, trunk lid, other stuff. Cheep.
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68/9 Rambler American hood; surface rust, would need bead blasting. $25
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70 AMX & Javelin driver and passenger red leather shell bucket seats (no
Javelin rear seat, sorry), OK condition, not show, $150.
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72 Javelin Taillights
http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/fz23228r50/1794709.html
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77 Hornet AMX rear ground effects. Were on a white car in a crusher pile;
all I could get to were the rearmost ones). $35.
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AMC Turbo II 14" wheels, wheels only $75 each. Center caps $50, OEM lug
nuts $20/set. Package price (wheels, center caps, and lug nuts),
$350. These were the mags that were standard on the 79-80 AMX (optional on
all other cars).
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AMC MEMORABILIA
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TOYS: JOHNNY LIGHTNING
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Johnny Lightning Gremlin. Went by a Toys R Us recently, and grabbed 3 JL
72 Gremlin X. Packages perfect. The cars are silver metallic. I seem to
recall hearing there were some other JL AMC issues within the past couple
of years. If you have extras, please drop me a line and lets do some
even-steven trading.
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AMC LITERATURE
*************************************************
I have an Excel spreadsheet with all of the spare literature in my
possession. Email me for a copy. Most of the NOS stuff is from 77 on up;
but do have some stuff back to the mid-sixties.
-- Marc
Marc Montoni
PO Box 28263
Richmond VA 23228-0263
804-288-2766
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:19:01 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 65 American speedo
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<ADVANCES62aJswFCHOz00000066@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
It's magnetic on the inside. What kind of problems are you having?
Could be the cable. You can sometimes pull the head apart and clean it
good with someting like WD-40. The old grease gets stiff with age.
Don't try to put more grease on, unless it's something like that light
spray lithium in an aerosol can. But clean it with WD-40 or mineral
spirits first.
On June 18, 2006 Gary L. Kirk wrote:
> Does anyone know anything much about the speedo on a 65 American
convertible. It seems to be made by King Seeley. I can't figure out how
it is supposed to work and what causes it to work and or not work. Is
it magnetic or?
> Thanks, Gary Kirk
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:33:51 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC being revived thread on Mopar site
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I don't know... it could be, but I'd think they would more likely bring
back Plymouth, since it was just canned because there was no real brand
difference between Plynmouth/Dodge/Chrysler. AMC was know for value
oriented economy cars in its hey-day (late 50s/early 60s, and even into
the 70s). By 2010 it might be a good name, if the car is American made.
But it won't be anything like a "real" AMC. With the palnned market, it
would be more like the Alliance.
On June 18, 2006 eddiestakes wrote:
> Mike Wilson sent me this, it is interesting but no names provided on
> 'insiders'
> http://hemi.l3it3r.com/?permalink=1104
> about AMC possibly being revived.
>
> I also wrote back Mike this:
> "Won't happen. You will however see bits and pieces. From the
current
> Chrysler 300 grill identical to the 72 Ambassador grill, to the
possible
> intro of the new Hornet series. But bringing back American Motors
won't
> happen. You can also go to the government tradmark site and research
it, DCX
> let the trademark slip years ago and someone in California bought the
rights
> to the name, not that they will do anything with it except sit on it,
sort
> of like internet squatters I guess. I would like to see some names
revived
> like Ambassador and Javelin but again, don't think it will happen,
now or
> 2010. DCX does need some low end cheepie if you will, brand to
compete with
> a variet fo under $14K cars on the market. And they can do it.
However
> reviving a automaker that constantly had surnames like 'struggling'
or 'in
> financial trouble' plastered in front of it in the 70s thru it's
demise
> won't happen as people will still have a negative memory of it. Not
us, we
> are AMCers! But the buying public will remember and I guarantee you
and will
> be more than willing to bet you some beers: that the first thing out
of the
> press, whether automotive or otherwise, mouths would be "the failed
> automaker that used to make Gremlin and Pacer". Not the image DCX
wants, nor
> needs in 2006, nor 2010. They did make a Hornet, and Matador and
Edsel had a
> Pacer all in the late 50s/early 60s, so who knows, maybe they start
with
> Hornet, then Rebel or Matador, but my money will beon the Hornet name
being
> revived, but NOT anything AMC name due to the stigma unfortuately
still
> associated with it."
>
> I guess not what everyone would want to hear, however, realistic I
guess.
> :~P
>
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *email is currently HEAVY
> Call if important*
> www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:18:08 -0500
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Report from the desert
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200606190618.08850.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Where can you buy the 4.0L cam button? I've never seen them listed anywhere,
even from Jeep.
Todd
On Friday 16 June 2006 12:07, Jim Blair wrote:
> I would do a 4.0L cam button and timing cover on the replacement engine
> so cam walk doesn't happen in the future though.
>
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