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Today's Topics:
1. hurst shifter wanted (Eddie Stakes)
2. Eagle wagon wanted (Eddie Stakes)
3. No way? (Mahoney, John)
4. Dave Baker (Francois Pigeon)
5. NOS Eagle or Spirit clutch Master Cylinder feeder line F/S
(hal.lynch@xxxxxxx)
6. Re: (50-63 front suspension) (Keleigh Hardie)
7. Masking The Grill For Painting The Silver (Mr. AMC)
8. Re: Eagle questions (Russ Hathaway) (Jeff Reeves)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:03:05 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] hurst shifter wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: waggs_44875@xxxxxxxxx
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i am looking for a factory hurst 4 speed shifter for my 1970 amx. anyone
that can help please email me at waggs_44875@xxxxxxxxx jim wagoner
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Anyone that can help out please give Jim a shout above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:07:52 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Eagle wagon wanted
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Doug Shepard"
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Eagle SW WANTED! Preferably 83-85 year. SoCal area. Good running condition.
Jon Zaremba jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 760-221-7779
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Anyone interested please give Jon a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Call if important*
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:13:14 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] No way?
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>
fender opening on the Citroen 2CV was designed is such a way that no matter where the wheel was actually positioned, it always appeared to be centered.
<<
Whether showing leg or skirted,
http://tinyurl.com/eb9rp
http://tinyurl.com/ezjzh
standing right or left-of-center,
(the French might lean left, but they never consider themselves gauche...),
it is in the eye of the beholder.
As is restoration of that grille.
Entasis. (Which is Greek to AMC...)
http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Greece/first/Parthenon.jpg
http://www.klassykoach.com/Rolls%20Royce%20front%20grille.jpg
>>
Don't forget to ship back one of Sadhamms'
Limos' for List Member Use during Rallies ;)
<<
Too bad son Uday had the Fedayeen Saddam torch his cool cars:
http://www.fibrowalls.com/content/blog/0501_ferrari1.jpg
One would've looked better,
http://tinyurl.com/l9n9o
and could've become faster,
http://www.maranellosales.com/UCL/view.asp?id=199
if he had not been so hot-headed about learning.
Some people just don't do things the easy way.
Thus they make everyone else suffer with them.
Up to a point, that is.
Then it all blows.
If not up, out.
Either way,
All gone.
>>
Please contact Jeffrey Thomas for information on the 71-74 Javelin AMX Registry.
>>
Please allow me to post to the forum.
Jeffrey Thomas
<<
>>
Hey Jeff,
Are you sure your name isn't Thomas Jeffrey?
<<
Joe Futon may have been typing while reclining on his fulton (or his PC simply made a typo), but, like Bruce Rambler and Thomas -Jeffery-, Jeffrey Thomas is a great name for an AMC fan to have.
>>
Please contact Jeffrey Thomas at jeff.thomas@xxxxxxxx for information on
the 71-74 Javelin AMX Registry.
<<
And, when Lockheed-Martin builds Javelins, a great AMC model to fan for.
http://tinyurl.com/jom6f
The 2nd gen Jav was a real rocket (for show and go) upon its AMC launch.
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blow the dust and fibers off the grill to clean it. Tomorrow it is
cleaning with prepsol and the taping start's. :-) Being in the advance
stages of emphazima the wife and my Dr's would have a fit if they knew
half of what I do.
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>>I have enjoyed your Saga entrees!
Damn the torped---, er, Javelins, (and physicians): throw some Saga beef
http://www.flickr.com/photos/naoya_n/page2/
http://j-click.jtb.co.jp/info/restaurant/wa_eng_01.html
on the grill! The cost of entry may be astounding, but the finished dish will be well worth it. Just like the silver sparkle on your AMC grille.
The coughs, the gasps, (the taxes)?
Just par for the course.
And the laughs?
Priceless!
As Jock
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I hope you used high temperature paint on your grill. You wouldn't want
paint to adhere to your brats, steaks, corn on the cob, etc,
<<
and Mark
>>
I usually spray my grill with some Vegetable oil spray. It helps keep the food from sticking, plus you get that cool flame thing going if you spray directly down into the grill! :]
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know. Plus, if you spray your Hornet grill with Pam, you'll have better aerodynamics -and- better mileage. A Nash Lafayette "Slipstream" effect
http://www.nashcarclub.org/inquiry/40_stnsn.jpg
will really make every AMC Hornet, Javelin, and Brick[yard] Matador fly.
http://www.adclassix.com/images41nashsedan.jpg
(Yes, it was officially "Slipstream" styling...)
http://tinyurl.com/rb97w
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Anyone have a spare grill or can point him in the right direction please give them a shout below thanks, Eddie Stakes
<<
>>
Looking for a grill for a 1971 Amc Gremlin. May be interested in broken grills too. Please E-mail me back. Thanks, Dean
<<
http://xfxf.blogspot.com/
http://bluescat.org/images/tree-on-house-2002/broken-grill-1.jpg
http://bluescat.org/images/tree-on-house-2002/broken-grill-2.jpg
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/thirdman/130sewer-grate-in.gif
http://www.ooze.com/sewer/wein-grate-paper.jpg
(Another reason for Vienna to consider itself the German-speaking Paris?)
>>Is there a condensor in the system?
Not if there's an editor in the house.
San Antonio native Carol Burnett said, "Comedy is tragedy plus time."
What ever happened to Carolinian-turned-San Antonian-turned New Yorker Colin Brodsky's Ambassador webpage and his AMC love; what ever happened to Kenoshan-turned San Antonian Fred Koos's Ambassador hardtop, Matador dream and list input; what ever happened to the promise of a future for the new world of AMC; what ever happened to the Texans, the Bostonians, the Californians, and all the others who had -something- to contribute?
What ever happened to AMC?
Charles W. Nash wasn't laughing when he bought "Ambassador" for a name.
(Which, as John [Elle, who wasn't being yellow or coasting along for a free AMC List ride] posted, happened in 1927, after -Shaw- Ambassadors [some of which weren't marketed for duty as taxis] ceased to be sold.)
Would Charlie buy Nash-AMC leftovers a comedy or a tragedy award today?
"He who laughs last, laughs best!" they say.
They didn't say if he drives a Nash, though.
If there's "no best, only better," "moving forward" should still be OK.
http://tinyurl.com/rkzps
If it works rather well for Toyota, it should work well for AMC, also.
Today it's just time to "move on..." Count the dots and hold the org.
No time to write about a sign reading, "Expidition, July 27, 1955" on a '46 Chevy that a 17-year-old and a 19-year-old drove from Los Angeles to Detroit. No time to connect their car design dots with those of many other young men who would design for Nash-AMC-Jeep. No, that's what happened to AMC. And then, right before your eyes, it's gone.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:19:29 -0500
From: "Francois Pigeon" <amx@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Dave Baker
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Hi AMC listers, i would like to reach Dave Baker ( Dr. Rambler ). He is hard to reach for me at this time. I was keeping a 1964 Rambler for him ( 4-5 years ) and i had to get rid of it because it was vandalised from local kids who ad nothing better to do than break everything in sight ( 11 cars ), my AMX was next but was spared...
If someone can give me some info, i can be reached at : amx@xxxxxxx
tel: 450-471-4993
Fran?ois Pigeon
1969 AMX
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:43:42 +0000
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] NOS Eagle or Spirit clutch Master Cylinder feeder
line F/S
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Last time I rebuild the hydraulic clutch on my 86 Eagle Sedan I bought an extra clutch master cylinder feeder line as I was told that Chrysler was just about out of them for the AMC Eagle and Spirit applications. This was back in 5/98. This is the line that connects the clutch master cylinder to the slave cylinder on the bell housing transmission assembly. It has the correct shield on it and has a high pressure rubber center section. Comes in Mopar packaging and is part number 53004167. Selling for $65 plus shipping if anyone needs one for a Eagle or Spirit with manual transmission. Please email me if interested.
Hal
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:51:52 -0700
From: Keleigh Hardie <ramblinguy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] (50-63 front suspension)
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"Take McPherson struts, for instance. There is no control over camber
changes at all, and the wheel changes camber as it moves up and down in
a shallow arc, but not much. It's cheaper to produce as a unit and
install the same way though"
That's where advertising comes in. Back in the Seventies when struts
were becoming common, many car makers mentioned them in their ads, even
though they they were inferior to the wishbone suspensions they
replaced. Since it was new, a lot of folks probably just assumed it was
better, which is what the ad writers count on...
Keleigh
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> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 03:44:18 -0000
> From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project (50-63 front suspension)
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Tom Jennings wrote: "People who slag this suspension as generally "no
> good" simply don't know what they are talking about. It's a fine design,
> if a bit old-fashioned, 40+ years later. It's got a lot of fail-safe
> subtleties in it as do more modern cars; it just has too many parts
> (read: labor costs) for modern tastes. "
>
> Just to clarify, that's mainly to many parts/labor costs for PRODUCTION.
> The upper assembly on the old cars consists of two arms with bushings,
> the trunnion itself, trunnion bushings which screw onto the trunnion and
> into the arms, large o-rings that serve as seals for the trunnion
> bushings, a thrust bearing, spring seat tower, bolt to hold the arms
> together, a bumper mount/spacer that goes on that bolt and between the
> arms, and the rubber bumper (that limits downward suspension travel).
> Then this all has to be assembled into one unit. It's not that hard, but
> takes time. For production that can be costly. Repair costs go up when
> someone unfamiliar with the design has to study it and take the time to
> figure it out as they go.
>
> In contrast, the single arm design has one large A-arm (dies cost more,
> but once made part doesn't cost much more than the two arms) with two
> bushings, the ball joint, and a pivoting spring seat. Costs less to
> manufacture, and less to install. It's a bit easier to repair, but not
> really cheaper assuming you're replacing the ball joints, bushings, and
> spring seat pivot. The trunnion is pretty simple and easy but takes a
> little more time. With the later design taking the pivoting spring seat
> apart and reassembling with a new bushing takes more time than replacing
> the trunnion with all those parts -- at least most of the time. It
> depends on how badly worn the pivot is.
>
> Production costs drives more changes to cars than real improvements.
> Theoretically efficiencies in production should improve quality due
> mainly to fewer possible mistakes, but that's a fallacy in the real
> world. Take McPherson struts, for instance. There is no control over
> camber changes at all, and the wheel changes camber as it moves up and
> down in a shallow arc, but not much. It's cheaper to produce as a unit
> and install the same way though (a true McPherson strut with integral
> shock/spring/spindle, not the many modifications such as the Mustand and
> Camaro, and some Japanese cars that simply replace the spring and shock
> with a strut, but are multi link suspensions). The old Rambler
> suspension is better in terms of handling and ride once the spring rates
> are tuned to modern conditions. Camber changes occur, but in a
> controlled manner, and the suspension can be adjusted much more, though
> caster is limited in the 50-61 big car design (-63 small cars), a bit
> less limited in the 63-69 design when adjustable strut rods are used.
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:47:57 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Masking The Grill For Painting The Silver
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
AmericanMotorsModelbuilders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I finally got the grill prepared to start masking it up to paint the
silver. I got 3 hours into the masking and have barely made a dent in it
so far. I know when I am done it will look like new. But to tell you the
truth if I had it to do all over again I don't know if I wouldn't just
paint the headlight doors and the grill pain old flat black and be done
with it. As with every other thing with this car it has went from a
simple grill re-paint of what I thought was an undamaged grill to a
major plastic repair of all the mounting points. I have 11 days to get
this job done for the show on June 4th.
"Doc"
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:45:41 -0400
From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Eagle questions (Russ Hathaway)
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Russ:
The Eagle doors will be a direct bolt on/interchange for the
Sportabout. Simply run the appropriate wiring harnesses, and you'll
enjoy all the power accessories!
Regarding swapping stuff from the four-door door to a 2-door door: I
looked into this a while ago. I remember that the AMC parts books list
the same front door window regulator for both the 2- and 4-door cars.
And, I believe, the wiring harness will interchange as well, but the
4-door harness will obviously have more wiring *because* it's a 4-door
harness (in the driver's door, at least).
Jeff Reeves
Auburn GA
94 Cherokee
79 Spirit GT
73 Javelin 401
72 Javelin SST
69 Ambassador DPL
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Eagle questions
To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060519175729.59300.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I pulled the heated rear window out of the Eagle
wagon, and you guessed right, the wires broke. Both
broken wires are braided. One wire is a ground so I
can contend with that OK. The other wire is the power
source, can I just soder a regular braided wire to
this stranded wire? There is a pull connector further
up the wire, so I figure it should be OK.
Will the doors fit onto my Hornet? I want to swap the
rusted doors on my 73 Hornet to these nice 85 Eagles
as I am getting them for next to nothing. Can these
power controls from the small doors be swapped over
onto the big doors when I switch over to a 2-dr wagon
configuration......Russ
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