Hey Jesse; I sold an engine to a guy in Idaho and the shipping would have been astronomical for such a short distance. I paid my buddies kid $100 to put the engine in the back of his little mini PU and he drove it out to a pre determined spot for the buyer to pick up. I have even put an engine in the trunk of my American (unbolt the trunk lid, three blankets for padding, and hit the road). So if the buyer or you are creative, you don't need the shippers.....Russ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com