----> I think I agree with Doug Novak. He wrote: > But, speaking of Concept Cars and the subject of the > thread Muscle Cars, I see > something happening that is very obvious. > Professional restoration and the recreation of > vintage Muscle, Modernization > and Full Scale Automotive Art in the private sector > has exploded. I can't > remember seeing so many Street Rods, restored 60's > and 70's Muscle Cars and > vintage Hot Rods on modernized chassis and drive > trains, as there are today, > both on the public roads as well as on the Cable > Networks and other media. > > We Boomers are buying, building and driving our > dreams and an industry is > rapidly growing to keep up with this demand. The > High Dollar rides such as > those auctioned in the desert sold for prices way > higher then what similar finds > can be had for, just google the internet and there > are Dealers with extensive > inventory of any thing you want, at any price and in > various stages > from needs work, to turn key, including AMC's. ---->I have three daughters, and a 22 year old son. It's not just about us, who actually remember the cars. All of my daughters' boyfriends drive old stuff, most of 'em are in 60's iron. All of these guys are very interested in my AMC projects, but find them somewhat intimidating. Most of these guys are very aware of what a Javelin or AMX is, even though they have not seen one. Because of the recent interest in muscle cars etc., AMC is beginning to develop a split personality in the collector and street machine market. The old "Oh, yeah, the Pacer! No wonder they went out." and then the flip side. There are people out there who consider AMC some kind of Shelby or Saleen on a larger scale. More than once, when one of these guys coming around my house found out that AMC made other cars, and started remembering some of the cars I showed him, a Concord or an Eagle made an appearance. My son just bought a 1967 Rambler American 440 V8 hardtop. All of his friends have old trucks or old cars. They are intensely into what we are doing here with our AMC's, and the latest little research I have uncovered. The future is out there waiting for us (or the next generation) to take it. After all, I grew up in the 60's and 70's, yet I love the hell out of the cars from 30's, 40's and 50's, not just from when I was a kid. I'm sure it's the same for kids now. I also have five grandchildren who I am sure will inherit the defective gene of American loyalty. I can't understand most of what you write, John, but I can hear where you're going. There are two BIG answers to the question (the AMC hobby)and lots of little ones /;] 1) In the immortal words of Eddie Stakes, "Shut Up And Drive!" Just showing up in public with a Gremlin, Pacer or Rambler is like an act of civil disobedience. It's Non-Clonelike Behavior. It draws attention. Nobody expects you to go out and beat on a 30,000 dollar AMX in traffic. Get yourself a 1000 dollar Eagle or Spirit, (check out Planet Houston AMX's Shut Up And Drive Lists) get it licensed, and DRIVE IT. If it won't work to get you to your job every day, use it for milk runs. These cars are for DRIVING, and you won't FEEL it if you don't DRIVE it. (Tell 'em, Doc). If your wife gives you issues, NAME the damn car. She'll start thinking it's cute when she sees how hard it works. You CAN get them very cheap, even free. But get it out there. People are curious, and everybody has a story. 2) LEARN about your hobby. Information is the main stock in trade in the modern age. It's the reason people build Fords and Chevys. They KNOW about them. Do Yahoo searches. Just check at the library instead of driving by. Stop at the swaps and flea markets. Score some old car, hunting, and sports mags. You'll find ads, reviews, and stories where you see these cars in the backgrounds. Buy a book every now and then. The only way the average guy is going to find out anything that flips his switch about American Motors is if he hears it from you. So you want it to be right. Only today I was told that Henry Ford was the first mass producer of automobiles in the United States. (Oldsmobile- 1901, then the Jeffery Rambler- 1902, THEN Ford- 1903) Just ask a question, ANY question, here on this list, and you know these people will find out. DRIVE and LEARN. The rest will follow, if you FEEL these cars. And I don't think we have to worry about our hobby, John. There IS a future, but we have to send out the next generation. It's now Our job to arm Them with what they need. Just like the Cord, Packard,Crosley (insert favorite defunct manufacturer here) guys do. If you ARE the next generation out there, once a month stop lurking, and comment about the AMC groove from your viewpoint, and ask a question you are curious about. All the other list readers learn valuable info. Start Your Engines! mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com