Forget the manufacturer charts unless you have seen the color on a car! The color charts are a representation of the color and not the actual paint! [At least the last time I heard anything about it]. I had guy pick a Toyota color for his Nissan from a color chart and when it was mixed and sprayed it ended up being a light lavender color. looked real good and the guy was happy, but it was anything but the light blue he expected. I did the same thing with my dad's truck, He wanted it red, I looked through the books and picked 70 Monza red, IIRC. Sprayed the truck and it was more orange then red. Again I was lucky and my dad was happy. Be careful with those charts and if you're in doubt at all get a small amount mixed and sprayed on the primer or base and make sure you really want that color before doing the whole car. Basic colors are usually pretty safe, metallics can burn you big time. -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:52:42 -0500 From: farna@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Paint time! To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62a8d9Ee4za00000295@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> forget the auto manufacturers chart and use the standard color chart from PPG or another big paint company. I did that for my colors, and found something sort of between Big Bad Blue and Maxi Blue. I figured since it was off the company's stnadard chart it should be easier to match later if necessary.