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John mentioned:
""AMC, Nash, Rambler Paint Codes" and "1973 MAC [sic] Chipchart" at
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/   "

Here is the link:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/parts%20&%20Literature/new_paint/images/73_pcc_amc.jpg
Hmm, sometimes fingers get going faster than brain, will have to fix that 
factory "MAC" paint chipchart....or maybe it is one of a kind, dealer 
special order, made only for Lisa Javelins! Nah.

As for a brown sunset, I believe the last colors offered on Eagles as they 
flew of into the sunset consisted of not one, but two browns.
Beige
Mist Silver Metallic
Autumn Brown Metallic
Mocha Brown Metallic
Olympic White
Classic Black
Medium Blue Metallic
Garnet, Metallic
Dark Blue Metallic

Bonus: the Eagle the Official Vehicle of __________
and what year ________?

Backing up with the Ambassador, I sent Chris some photos Mike Freigruber 
sent me earlier this year of a car he wished to sell. It is a 1970 
Ambassador in factory P1 black, four door, formidable original 325hp/390V8 
under the hood. I mentioned to Mike that it is probably one of less than 
5....if that.....in existence. If there was more I have never seen another 
since new. To me it struck me as a fleet/cop/taxi sort of vehicle. I was 
remotely interested in it, but saved the photos, as I like unusual AMCs, and 
many cars like this thru the years simply were cannibalized for the bit 390s 
and 401s under the hoods, have done it myself. Police, Army, Houston Police, 
undercover, Navy, you name it, and if a four door or wagon, see you. Anyone 
wanting to see this ice covered jewel in the rough email me, I do not know 
if mike decided to keep it or sell it for $2500.

On the Ambassador. Someone pointed out to me the other day that my 72 
Ambassador grill looks almost identical to the hot selling Chrysler 300, 
take a look.
Mopar:
http://www.edmunds.com/media/2003/newyork/04.chrysler.300c/chrysler.300c.f34.500.jpg
AMC:
http://epage.com/web/AC/00/01/39/23/56/picture.jpg?t=1135995527980


"The summer American motors raced American pony cars in Trans-Am."
Seldom heard or ever seen...even by AMC fans:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jim-Paschal-Trans-Am-NASCAR-AMC-Javelin-Ford-Plymouth_W0QQitemZ5650670283QQcategoryZ88433QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://i18.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/af/61/de_2.JPG or item number 5650670283

On this SC/360 Hornet, when someone actually got them to answer questions 
(simply because they had called from overseas) they said they would take 
$19K. They are brokers. Same car was in one of my back SUAD issues for $14K, 
and could have been dealing with owner, not middleman.......
http://www.motorcarportfolio.com/site/product.cfm?id=2583
might be why it has languished at this broker firm for a good while.

Which this:
http://www.classicmusclecars.com/images/showroom/2157_4.jpg
brings me back to this:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/taylorsc360interior.JPG
which leads us back to this:
http://www.motorcarportfolio.com/site/product.cfm?id=2583
which was offering this:
"Free Gas **" (from classicmusclecars.com above)
which in turn made me think of 53 years ago:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/parts%20&%20Literature/53_Nash_winners.jpg
(read showroom window).

"Unless "special order" means really really rare --- like an SC/401 AMC
considered releasing."
Like this:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/sc401_hornet_dr_frnt.JPG
of which made one yearn for "one more year" of r/w/b:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/Hornet_Machine.jpg

Thsi is a interesting call to arms:
"Tell us also how so many other-make fans (for example, Studebaker) can do 
so
much more --- as a group --- than AMC people can do individually. In case 
you
don't know it, Studebaker people opened their own new (not 
Studebaker-Packard
or South Bend Country or Gambling & Rambling) museum in the fall of 2005. 
It's
not just a hall to display old cars and sell trinkets to tourists: it's a
library and archive of Studebaker history.  A $9.6 million example of what
Nash-Rambler-AMC-Jeep has not.  Whether AMC means Detroit or Kenosha or 
oddball
models among a few muscle cars that the magazines hype until they're silly, 
why
isn't there a similar place for AMC?  What's with AMC people?  Can't they 
get
it together to accomplish something?  What are AMC clubs, leaders, experts, 
or
lovers still waiting for?  Death before action?  Or just more muddlin' 
along?
When will AMC's RWB appear on something like this?"

I think the old Kenosha transportation museum is a great start. however, not 
sure how many people will go out of their way to it.
Us AMC fans? It's Mecca. To the new money building McMansions on I-50? Yawn. 
Don't get me wrong, there are a number of
museums in Houston I don't go to. 
http://www.houston-guide.com/guide/arts/museums.htm
I would not be caught 'dead' here about 22 miles from me:
http://www.nmfh.org/index.html#

"What's with AMC people?  Can't they get it together to accomplish 
something?"
I believe one of the things heere John is that collectively, probably ain't 
gonna happen in our lifetimes or Y3K. However, there have
been a number of gains, and small steps, even big leaps, by some. You also 
have a lot of 'plodders' out there; these are the people who
volunteer whether at meets, or bring their cars out to shows, whether a 
cruise night or big regional, or have it in magazines. They represent
us all, from the little Rambler daily driver to the drag Gremlin that is 
only see in the back hills of Kentucky by those who wished it didn't
show up to open a can of whupass on them. While I guess it is great that 
Studebaker fans have pooled and have a wonderful museum,
they are a invisible marque. I can't recall the last time I even saw a 
Studebaker at a meet, even the big FM1960 Street Meet
http://www.cruisintimes.com/ or anywhere with exception of possibly the ISCA 
show at Astrodome, even then there are times
when over 500 cars and no Stu's. I don't subscribe to a fraction of the 
magazines I used to (over 30 at one time, now with little AMCers
in the house only time to read Sesame Street, Hot Wheels, Clifford, ect) but 
not a lot of Studebaker coverage out there I recall.

In 1985 a 1971 hemi cuda convertible was worth from $15-$25,000. In 1999 a 
1971 hemi cuda convertible in the same condition is worth from 
$250-$500,000.  In 2003 a 1971 hemi cuda convertible sold for $800,000.  In 
2005 a 1971 hemi cuda convertible sold for $3,000,000.
Don't see them around either, but I believe 11 were made! However, Mopar 
still in business, unlike Stu and AMC. Nice to see some folks however have a 
appreciate of AMC, this is Juliano's place up in NY, John you ever been 
there, get us some pix of his stuff!:
http://www.stevenjuliano.com/home.htm Yup, same guy used to own the AMX II, 
and that is my Bakelite spacer on his Trans Am Javelin in there.

I'd love to see a larger collective effort, however, one of the reasons (if 
not THE) reason we have seen some good coverage in recent memory of AMC is 
simply because of the individual efforts of many AMC fans out there. Could 
be Jock fooling with CC, Frank answering another oddball questions, Jerome 
fixing up a Nurburgring AMX, Foster unleashing another book, meets in areas 
of the country that AMCs or Ramblers might not have had exposure then...or 
now:
http://amcrc.com/meets/meets.htm 
http://www.amonational.com/calendar.htm  Speed Channen (although those guys 
were idiots); BJ's book http://www.hobbyobsession.com/bjsbook.html or many 
of the wonderful new reproduction products out there in the past 10 years to 
help out AMC fans
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/bodyVendorslist.htm (wha? you thuoght I 
would type all this without a shameless plug?).

I guess I can't call it muddling along, but maybe mudd'n 
http://www.arcticboy.com/media/eagle/Eagrwb.gif along. Death before action. 
Hmmmm...
they truly are slowly heading home. And taking a lot of knowledge with them, 
the last of the Nash men.
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/parts%20&%20Literature/nashdrumbeat.jpg
and no way to stem the time of time either. I recently found that out when 
my dad Homer T. Stakes Sr died October 30th. Worked for AMC 18 years.
Lots of, no, many, fond memories from the last Nash man. Gone now, and that 
storybook is silent........or is it..................(to be continued)

"Every day look at a beautiful picture, read a beautiful poem, listen to
beautiful music and, if possible, say something reasonable."
- Goethe

"Tenderness and kindness are not signs of weakness and despair, but
manifestations of strength and resolution."
- Gibran

"Nothing can bring you peace but yourself."
- Emerson

"Life well spent is long."
- Da Vinci

An' remember da AM "P" code!

"I would rather see 100 more Chevy powered AMCs than see one more AMC in a 
salvage yard"
-well, duh:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/just%20stuff/altered_amcs.htm

Some fleet police cars in 1973 have PP, not as in daipers, but 6th digit is 
P, 7th digit is P for 360 four barrel. Some are TP, not like that annoying 
Charmin commercial with bears dancing around happy to dump in front of 
family, but T=Taxi 6th digit, P=360/4V. TP like Tom Petty. One more thing, I 
gotta learn ya'll everything like counting, how are you going to order fuud 
if yah can't cauont write:
http://www.jvlnet.com/~liliana/numbers30.html

John, enjoyed your posts, you are one of the reasons why I decided to come 
back here. Have a Happy New Year/Feliz Prospero Ano Nuevo too.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
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