That land where workers once loaded unpainted Jeep bodies with backward-installed seats on rail cars to show hated suits their UAW "won't" power is now this land where Wal-Marts filled with credit-card carriers' carts full of "crap" made in China fill their asphalt acres with cars made any which where but in UAW plants of America: Japan, Korea, Mexico, and yes, China are where America's consumables (including cars) come from. Will America change enough --- fast enough --- to keep lights burning bright? Will the next generation of Jeep [Wrangler] be built to beat the rest of the world? Will the next Cadillac actually recapture luxury from Lexus? Will the next Ford pick-up keep truckin' ahead of Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai, and who-knows-what [Mandarin] marques? Will the new status car be a Prius assembled in Changchun? And will America's finest automotive hours, like those times that Churchill so eloquently recalled, be less lived than remembered --- as we like to remember when AMC was alive and well? Or will FCV R&D be able to pull the Big-3 out of our impending disaster and the USA U&I be able to pull the hares out of our long-unbrushed hat? The better American motors does tomorrow, the better hobby AMC survives. >> from out of the distant past (from AMC-List Archives CD) March 1999... << Thank heaven for AMC fans like Retro Ralph who voluntarily work toward tomorrow and answer questions (Todd's, Jock's, yours, mine) today (and who prove that I hadn't completely lost my mind [yet] as I read the "8 years" [in Gilmore's e-mail to Jock] and thought, "No, it is 5-6 since the #1 AMX/3 was repatriated") and show us all (yet again) why the AMC-List is more than just twisty twaddle. But --- ("Oh, no, Butthead has yet more complaints!"), wouldn't it be even better if an AMX/3 section were in an online AMCyclopedia --- wherein ALL available info were cut, pasted, linked, cached, captured for Todd, Jock, you, and me to access? To accomplish that wouldn't require armies of doctorates, villages of experts, or even gigs by PC types bearing Apple pies. Simply pile all the info we can find onto a well-wrought "Y'all give!" skeleton and go. Same deal with "Machine" matters: I'm not exactly new to AMC info, yet >> try joining this group: http://groups.msn.com/AMCRebelMachine They << was a "Rapp" at my door I had never heard before. Thanks to those who DO do something to "spread the word" very willingly, we learn of new places to be better informed, but "we" are the already converted choir we are preaching to and we, probably (I, certainly) can't remember (and won't bookmark --- hundreds of AMC-related bookmarks were so unwieldy that I was almost happy both times when my bookmark file was lost and the IT folks couldn't --- or didn't want to bother --- recovering it somehow) such sources of information for use tomorrow, let alone 5 or 50 years from now. Allan's list of links, Wiki's wide world of knowledge, and Frank's fine tomes (I have one of his earlier efforts; it's among the better-organized AM books yet bound [which isn't faint damning praise, since another {writer's} fine AMC effort doesn't even have an -index- in-bound]) truly can't do what could be done online. The technology exists to go beyond the ordinary, now --- why not use it to its best? (And, Butthead added, why not post links that hit photo[s] direct?) http://socalamx.net/photos/displayimage.php?album=24&pos=148 http://tinyurl.com/b3h77