Re: the Navarro Rambler Six...

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I would be more concerned about the torque being produced by the motor rather 
than the HP

My 232 killed many more Rambler gear boxes than the 196 did :(

Stu
Melbourne
Australia

Quoting Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>:

> Recent Corvette's use a transaxle connected to the engine with a long 
> driveshaft (it looks like a torque tube but doesn't locate the rear 
> suspension). Also, Oldsmobile Toronados used a transaxle behind their 455's 
> which made gobs or torque. Those transaxles are basically a TH-400 split in 
> half and connected with a chain (which is their weak point) and end up 
> being pretty compact. You can also use a "V" drive (ever see the wheelie 
> Ambulance that was built on Monster Garage?) which would let you put the 
> axle under the motor.
> 
> You'd have to beef the structure up to do it, but why not stab that motor 
> in a 65 American convertible? I'm thinking mild custom: lowered, shaved 
> door handles, decent sized wheels, etc...
> 
> Matt
> 
> At 10:57 AM 11/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >The problem with a std trans and rear is overall length. The
> >transaxle used in the indy car was very short, from "bellhousing" to
> >centerline of axle -- like a VW beetle setup. I don't think you could
> >practically make a driveline that was under 60 - 70" from harmonic
> >balancer to axle centerline. Put the driver and "stuff" (cage for
> >your damned ankles, fuel tank, battery, etc) in front of you (hmm...)
> >and the wheelbase is loooong.
> >
> >That rambler six is a long block!
> >
> >I can dream up exotica, but when push comes to shove I gotta buy it
> >and I gotta build it.
> >
> >I wish I had walked into that auction with enough $$$ to have bought
> >the transaxle! Oh man would that have made a fun car...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Nov 15, 2005, at 4:32 AM, farna@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >>You can run it mid engine with a standard axle. The indy car had an
> >>independent axle, but even that's not to difficult these days! The
> >>only ones that would look "period" behind it is a Jag or Corvette
> >>axle, but even a 280Z/ZX axle should be sufficient. The tires will
> >>break loose before the axle gives up. The Halibrand IRS setup was
> >>similar to a Jag. Standard Halibrand quick change center with very
> >>short "stub" axles right up against the case, drive shafts out to
> >>hubs that were on control arms. The big difference in the Jag and
> >>Corvette setups is the springs -- Jag uses four coil overs that
> >>require mounts out near the wheels, the 'vette uses a leaf spring
> >>mounted on the cast diff cover. So the 'vette is a bit easier to
> >>mount.
> >>
> >>I've seen a really old mid engine car (something built in the 50s
> >>or early 60s) that used a standard rear axle about 6" from the
> >>transmission. The engine and axle were mounted on a sub frame, axle
> >>welded to it, which pivoted in front and had a transverse leaf
> >>spring in the back. Needless to say it wouldn't have rode good with
> >>all that unsprung weight, but it worked good enough that the guy
> >>had some fun with it anyway!
> >>
> >>
> >>On November 15, 2005 Tom Jennings wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not forgotten -- I stare at it nearly every day, making me feel
> >>>guilty for not continuing the documentation.
> >>>
> >>>Randy Guynn was kind enough totake the custom, one-of-a-kind Navarro
> >>>six camshaft and profile it. I've had the specs for months now, too !
> >>>@#@!!#$@ busy to do ANYTHING on projects 'til recently. I'm entering
> >>>it into a spreadsheet to make a nice table, will post it and mail the
> >>>URL to the list.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>(I'm thinking now that the only decent project to use that motor
> >>>would be a hot rod, something 50's-ish with a track nose. I doubt I
> >>>could ever afford a Hallibrand rear to make a mid-engine car like it
> >>>ought to be, putting the turbo intake behind the drivers left ear :-)
> >>
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> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
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