Thanks to all of your suggestions the axles are out. To boot I had the Snap-On Tool (slide hammer) on my tool board. I remembered as soon as I got the suggestion to use the brake drum like a slide hammer. As far as the T-10 value goes I have no idea. Bill Strobel Independent Towing Fayetteville NC __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com