Mike, i have 3 different 'numbers' for P8 Shadow Black that might help you out. DQE 9372 (ditzler enamel), DDL9372 (acrylic) are shown in the 67-72 parts book. and for some reason i have DDL 9381 written down, think that one is a 'similar' version that i found on e-bay one time. last time we spoke about it on the list, i think we came to the conclusion it had more of a satin/egg shell texture to it - but my memory sucks. let me know how you make out, i've got 2 of these things so i'm in the same boat as you. Colin Hillyard Oakbank, Manitoba, Canada > From: "Gary Walker" <NashFlash@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Texture of paint for a shadowmask car > You may find a source of paint surface gloss numbers for AMC cars. That is > something that we all need in our resources anyway. Gloss is the term you > need to use in this case. Gloss is measured with the use of special > measuring instruments which use light to detect gloss at levels > corrosponding to a number scale of zero to one hundred. This is an accepted > standard used in automotive and motorcycle industries. The measurements are > taken using one of only two angles for refraction, 60 and 85 degrees which > has to be taken into account when trying to match paint gloss. Some larger > paint shops use these instruments and some of our more accomplished AMC > restorers may have access to one of the devices. > A perfect flat on the gloss scale would be zero. A perfect if possible > gloss on the gloss scale would be 100. ( That would be a perfect mirror with > no pigment ) The proper terminology for casual verbal reference is in five > ranges as follows ; Flat 0-15, Eggshell 5-20, Satin 15-35, > Semi-Gloss 30-65, and Gloss 65-100. > Someone should be able to help find the data you need to have the proper > gloss measurement for originality. Fred Koos has lots of old AMC technical > data. You may check with someone who has done a perfect restoration such > as the guy with the BBB AMX and BBB Javelin. I forgot his name but it is > easy to find. > I DO hope that this helps. I ran a coating line for GM for about 24 > years and absorbed some trivia. > Your AMC freind, > Gary Walker Owner of some old stuff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike watts > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:58 PM > Subject: Texture of paint for a shadowmask car > > Repainting my 70 AMX and ready to paint the shadowmask but painter needs to > know if the Black was a textured like chryslers organisol or a smooth > finish. > > was it gloss, semi gloss or flat? > > Thanks for your help > Mike Watts