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I agree with Tom -- I want something that works first. The problem is that most drivers in the US won't wear belts unless they are somewhat comfortable. The "fast pull/shock locking" belts are the best compromise -- they allow easy movement until they are extended fast or there is a sudden stop. That they aren't relatively tight to begin with is why people get bruises across their chest where the belt was -- slamming into the belts. Tight belts would leave less bruising anyway, maybe not none. 

I think your car has a good mix/compromise in the style Tom. A 60s rally car would probably have a very spartan interior at best! Not something you'd like every day. If I build the 62 American roadster I've been considering it will have a spartan 60s rally interior! Lately I've been thinking about building a dragster from that car though. That Chevy powered 63 wheel stander I had in AIM a few issues ago got me thinking about duplicating it, except using a 287/327 with dual turbos in the rear seat foot wells (which would be cut out and "flipped", leaving a cavity UNDER the floor for the turbos). Would be interesting... but then I'm not really into drag racing -- It would just be something I would build, play with a season or two, then sell. 

On November 8, 2005 Tom Jennings wrote:

> Hear hear! I want functional. I'm building a SOLO II car, with 60's
> rally style mixed with contemporary 'import scene' interior. I might
> even auto-cross again with it, maybe next year. I'll probably end up
> in some screwball class, but what the hell, it's fun anyways.
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2005, at 4:33 AM, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Well lets say functional but not comfortable.  Last time I heard
> > anything about belts (when the Corvette 'cinch' motors were
> > introduced to tighten belts for spirited driving) comfortable belts
> > are not the safest belts.  I will agree people (in the USA?) will
> > only use the comfortable belts. Reminds me of something I read
> > about brakes; in Europe people don't care if the brakes are noisy
> > as long as they stop well, in the United States we don't care if
> > they don't stop well as long as they are quiet!  Present company
> > excluded I am sure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Marano
> >
> > Kenosha WI
> >
> >
> >
> >> Message-Id: <47B56B4A-9290-43EB-B9C7-093449BD1536@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: seat belts!
> >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:13:01 -0800
> >>
> >> I finally got my seatbelts rebuilt, in my 1970 Hornet. Seatbelt
> >> technology and fashion aren't a specialty of mine, but I think 1970
> >> is unique (a lot in the 1970 Hornet is unique to that car; many
> >> things are totally different from 1971-up).
> >>
> >> It's certainly an early attempt to figure out how to make a
> >> functional shoulder belt -- and not successful one! The lap belt is
> >> ordinary enough, the outside end has a retractor in a plastic tube,
> >> the inside is fixed with a plastic tube that pokes through the seat.
> >>
> >> The shoulder belt is the kicker -- it's fixed to the roof behind your
> >> head, does not retract, and has a primitive clip and socket behind
> >> the plastic trim with which to afix the mess when you're not using it
> >> (which will be most of the time for most people, it's so annoying).
> >> The business end has a little tang that fits into a keyhole in the
> >> lap belt. It all looks very experimental. And since it's fixed, and
> >> not inertial, when it's adjusted reasonably you are essentially
> >> webbed tight to the seat, you can't even lean forward.
> >>
> >> The whole contraption cracks me up. The shoulder belt is so
> >> impractical and hard to use! I love old cars!
> >>
> >>
> >> I had to have all the webbing replaced; since the shoulder belt
> >> doesn't retract, it's out in the sun, and they're all bleached and
> >> frayed. I steel-wooled all the chrome parts, wrinkle-painted the
> >> painted buckles (not correct, but not a concern of mine).
> >>
> >> That's all, just a reminder of the past, and improvements actually
> >> made over time!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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