RE: Seat Belts

["Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I really love old cars too!!! But I don't love old car seat belts. I saw a
picture of an AMX backseat somewhere that
had retractable shoulder harness installed, I  assume it has the retractable
lap belt too, and I always hoped to figure out how the owner did it. So far
no luck. Actually I'm about ready to give up on the whole thing and go to a
set of after market seats that I can use four to six point belts with just
because I always felt so comfprtable in my Formula Ford with a six point
harness on. What the heck I can't reach the stereo controls anyway!!!!!!
Rofl.
I love my 5 speed!!!!!!!    Everyone should have one !!!!!!!!  I still want
to find another 70 that is a little past a full resto and turn it into a
clone of the Penske/Donohue # 6 Trans AM machine. I could put lots of
fiberglass parts on it and feel good about the whole thing and really start
having some fun on test and tune days at the track.
Armand

AMC used the 'solid' shoulder belts until 1973.

Ken Ames

Quoting Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>:

> The early shoulder belt thing isn't unique to AMC either. Every car with a
> shoulder belt made from the late 60's (they were required after Jan 1,
> 1968) to the mid-70's that I've been in has this same stupid design.
>
> Matt
>
> At 08:22 AM 11/5/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >Tom, Those belts aren't unique to the 70. My 69 has the same pathetic
> setup!
> >Yes they are a pain in the a$$. I find the remote control for my Sony
dash
> >unit quite handy, since I can barely reach it with shoulder belt on! I
> >have to wear it most of the time as with my kids in the car I don't want
> >to set any bad examples. :]
> >   I hope to figure out a bolt in replacement for them some day, but,
when
> > that might be i don't know!
> >--
> >Mark Price
> >markprice242ATadelphia.net
> >Morgantown, WV
> >
> >
> >---- Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I finally got my seatbelts rebuilt, in my 1970 Hornet. Seatbelt
> > > technology and fashion aren't a specialty of mine, but I think 1970
> > > is unique (a lot in the 1970 Hornet is unique to that car; many
> > > things are totally different from 1971-up).
> > >
> > > It's certainly an early attempt to figure out how to make a
> > > functional shoulder belt -- and not successful one! The lap belt is
> > > ordinary enough, the outside end has a retractor in a plastic tube,
> > > the inside is fixed with a plastic tube that pokes through the seat.
> > >
> > > The shoulder belt is the kicker -- it's fixed to the roof behind your
> > > head, does not retract, and has a primitive clip and socket behind
> > > the plastic trim with which to afix the mess when you're not using it
> > > (which will be most of the time for most people, it's so annoying).
> > > The business end has a little tang that fits into a keyhole in the
> > > lap belt. It all looks very experimental. And since it's fixed, and
> > > not inertial, when it's adjusted reasonably you are essentially
> > > webbed tight to the seat, you can't even lean forward.
> > >
> > > The whole contraption cracks me up. The shoulder belt is so
> > > impractical and hard to use! I love old cars!
> <snip>
>