Re: New Christy Rambler (Ebay)
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Re: New Christy Rambler (Ebay)
- From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:44:24 -0800
On Nov 2, 2005, at 1:24 PM, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
IIRC my tires [25560R15] are about 26.5 tall and I have a Spirit
T-5 with 3:31 gears. It cruises on the highway just great. I have
no real idea of what RPM it pulls as I've never mounted a tach.
Fuel Mileage? I've not checked it offically, but it is real good,
I'd estimate 25-30 mpg highway easy. I wish I could drive it more
to get and official read on it. The 3:31's seem to be about perfect
with my current combo.
Yours is turning 2500 at 60, 2900 at 70; mine's somewhat less, 2200
and 2550 or so. (see below)
I'd be really interested in hard mileage data on your car. I'm
getting a solid 22 mpg highway at 60 - 65 mph, 19 mpg at 70 - 75 mph,
and around 18.5 in-town. That's 7800 miles, 400 gals of data (every
single fillup and mile since I ran the car in June 2005. I drive 300
mi/week (100 mi/day 3 days) on I5, I605, I405, LA to Irvine.
Long ago we had a thread about mileage, engine efficiency, cruising
'sweet spot', torque peak, etc. Never got resolved to my
satisfaction. The old and general consensus is that best mileage is
under 2000 rpm, and that torque peaks are spec'd under 2000 rpm for
the motors AMC used. Clearly, you and I, and nearly all of the
numbers I've seen in TSMs regarding GEARING (not engine rpm/hp/torque
specs...) puts 60 - 70 mph cruise will over 2000 rpm.
I don't believe the TSM engine torque and HP specs, at all. Net or
gross, it's half marketing and tax issues. I'd love to hear actual
dyno numbers on actual factory-stock motors, but I don't think many
people do that.
Clearly gearing is all a compromise even in the fuel-spree 60's, but
still, factories tended to know what they were doing, if only be
large-scale trial and error.
Mark's car, hacked up from my Hornet spreadsheet, I included on 3rd
gear (1:1).
RPM CFM MPH TIRE DATA
1000 60 24.3
Axle ratio n:1 3.31 1100 66 26.7 Width: 255
Tire diameter 27.05 1200 72 29.2 Aspect: 60
1300 78 31.6 Wheel: 15
1400 84 34.0 Diameter: 27.05
1500 90 36.5
1600 96 38.9
RPM interval 100 1700 102 41.3
1800 108 43.8
904 Auto 1900 113 46.2
First 2.54 2000 119 48.6
Second 1.55 2100 125 51.1
Third 1 2200 131 53.5
2300 137 55.9
2400 143 58.3
Engine CID 258 2500 149 60.8
VE 0.8 2600 155 63.2
2700 161 65.6
2800 167 68.1
2900 173 70.5
3000 179 72.9
3100 185 75.4
3200 191 77.8
3300 197 80.2
3400 203 82.7
3500 209 85.1
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