Re: The old days

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I didn't mean to imply the truck runs poorly.
The pif is referring to the fact that a V-8 in the same size truck will do equal or better infuel economy! In the winter moths in stock form it got as low as 13 mpg! In the summe it did about 15.5. With a carb spacer and K&N filter and tires at 40 PSI it now does 16.6.
  I have the stock clutch fan back on as my aftermarket electric dies and I'm waiting for th ereplacement to come back. It isn't good enough when towing, but after I put our Pontoon bat away next month I can switch back to the electric fan for winter. Then I can get a final tally on MPG with all my mods in place! I'm hoping to get about 18 mpg in town. Which by the way is what my 96 Cherokee Sport with a 5 speed got when I drove it really hard! Not the easy driving I have to do with my S-10 to get that kind of mileage. Of course a two door sport weighs 3200Lb or so in 4X4 trim. I think the S-10 Crewcab tips the scales at 4000+ in 4X4 model.
  As soon as my kids are older I'll be going back to a smaller cabbed truck.
I've got a want for a Comanche Longbed. I keep my eyes peeled, some day I will locate one at the right price and at the right place and time. I will add it to my to build list!
Mark Price
mprice@xxxxxxxxxx
Morgantown, WV
69 AMC rambler, 4.0L, EFI, 5 speed 
65 Ambassador Conv, 327 AUTO, Basketcase
65 Ambassador 990H flood victim parts car!
01 S-10 CREWCRAP 4X4



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date:  Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:42:22 -0400

>The only issue I have with a V-6 in trucks is that they tend to produce 
>their torque at higher RPM which stinks for towing and hauling. My 96 Ram 
>with a 318 make 220 HP (which plenty of V6's do anymore) but it makes 300 
>ft/lbs of torque at lower RPM (peak is at 3200 RPM but the torque curve is 
>pretty flat from about 2000 RPM to that point) and is all done making power 
>by about 4500 RPM. There are lots of V6's that are just starting to make 
>power near this point. Most of the V6's I've paid attention to also tend to 
>make less torque in general than a typical V8. Torque is the level that 
>gets you down the road and I've rather have a 2 x 4 than a twig when it 
>comes to levers.
>
>Inline sixes are another matter all together. They typically have long 
>strokes which makes for a bunch more torque at low RPM.  The 199's and 
>232's in the 60's made peak torque at 1600 RPM. That's almost dieselesque 
>and is also perfect for towing and hauling.
>
>Of course, there is a downside to having gobs of torque at low RPM: the 
>rear tires don't seem to last as long for some reason and every now and 
>then, there's this screeching noise and white smoke that comes from the 
>rear wheels. I haven't quite figured that out yet but I'm determined to put 
>my foot down and get to the bottom of things.
>
>Matt
>
>At 01:20 PM 9/23/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>I've driven S-10s with the 4.3 (almost a hot rod!) and standard 1/2 ton 
>>trucks (they're reasonable with no load). I wouldn't use one in a bigger 
>>truck, not unless it had a five speed. It's like the GM/Isuzu 1.5 ton 
>>trucks with the four cylinder diesels -- lots of gearing. With one of the 
>>new six speed autos and low gears, with the right programming for the 
>>trans controller, a 4.3 V-6 should do really good in a medium duty truck. 
>>Of course the new 4.2L in-line six puts out 270 hp and 275 lb-ft of torque 
>>-- The 4.3L Vortec only produced 180-190 hp and 245-250 lb-ft of torque. I 
>>couldn't find WHER the torque and hp came in with a quick search -- I bet 
>>the torque comes in a lot sooner on the in-line engine. Looks like the 4.3 
>>isn't used in trucks any more, the 4.2L in-line replaced it. Good four 
>>speed auto or five speed and the right gearing would make it right (that 
>>six speed auto would be great!), and throw a turbo on for a little more umph.
>>
>>On September 23, 2005 mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>> > Anyone that's ever had 4.3 in a heavy truck knows what pig it can be. 
>> God forbid if you got one of the ones with the balance shaft rattle! Try 
>> and get it fixed after your 3-26 is up! Even though they promised they 
>> would step up and fix it when the fix came out. I've never found a shop 
>> willing to do so! GM, just plain sucks when it comes to customer relations!
>> > Mark Price
>> > mpriceAtwestco.net
>>
>>
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