Re: Starter For 401 question

["Joe Wyatt" <jwyatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Daniel, I just completed putting together a 360, that's .030 over got two 
new starters from O'Reilly Auto Parts, there were Duralast #DL3207 cost 
$35.00 each.  Works great and started the 360 on the first try, the car is a 
74 Javelin, using a distributor and electronic module off a 81 jeep 360.  I 
also have a 401 under construction for my 71 and going to use the same set 
up, got to go get a refabed distributor I ordered for it today from O'Reilly 
Auto Parts, cost $47.00 plus $30.00 core since I don't have a core or second 
Jeep set up.

Your older started may be loosing its punch, the starter solenoid by the 
battery may also be getting old and have burnt points that effect the 
starter, you can jump around it to test if you don't have another one to 
replace it with.  Easy way to test is to disconnect the negative battery 
cable, move the Hot/positive cable from the switch side of the solenoid to 
the starter side and then touch the negative battery cable to the battery 
(this will turn the starter over with out starting the motor).

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:02:19 -0700
From: "Retro Ralph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Starter For 401 question
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Also, maybe should make sure that you have a good battery to begin with.
I've have batteries that were supposed to be good but apparently had lost
their "stuff".  I charged them up and go to start my AMX or Suburban and not
enough kick there.  Until I got a new battery...  This is especially with a
warm engine and not necessarily a high compression engine.

As I understand it does not hurt to get the next step up battery for mosre
cranking amps. If yours calls for a 60 CCA battery maybe should get a 700 to
750 cca battery.  You can talk to people that sell the batteries and confirm
this.  The last two batteries I bought because of this type problem were new
Exide brand batteries.  They found me a hotter battery but would still fit
in my battery tray. They spin the starters now...hot or cold.
Check this out before buying expensive geared starters unless you don't mind
speding a lot.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Starter For 401 question


> 1. The stock starter should turn over fast enough. I'd start by replacing
the battery cables if the old ones are still in there, and go one size
larger than stock. Don't forget to replace the engine to frame grounding
starp/cable as well, with at least the same size as the battery cables.
>
> 2. If the battery cables don't solve the problem there are gear reduction
mini starters that are stronger than the stock one and give more header
clearance to boot. Order one for a Jeep V-8 from Jegs/Summit, or give A.J. a
call @ South Texas AMC.
>
>
>
> On September 12, 2005 eddiestakes wrote:
> (edited)
>
> > Any advise for Daniel please feel free to reply and also copy your reply
to him, thanks for all who might help out.
> > Eddie Stakes'
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: ptbreezer@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: Eddie Stakes
> > Subject: Starter For 401
> >
> > I have  1971 AMC Javelin 401 the bored .30 over. Since rebuilding the
engine it seems that the OEM start just can't turn over the 10:5:1
compression the beast is going to be putting out. Would you have any info on
a good strong starter??
> > Daniel