Re: Sources for Wagner drum brake hardware?

[Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 27 May 2005, Matt Haas wrote:

> That square clip thing is actually what the Bendix brakes had from the 
> factory, The hold down hardware I have looks like a nail with a head on each 
> end and it has a large, flatish C shaped spring clip that goes under one of 
> the heads. I just took a picture of what I'm after. The picture is at 
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com/1967american/images/wagner_hardware.jpg and it 
> shows the return springs and one of the hold down pins and clips.

What I've got on all my cars now is the nail-type pin, but on the inside
end the pin is flattened, two small ears, that lock into a double-keyhole
in the center of a dished washer. I thought that was Bendix.

I have seen the type above, but never owned a car that used 'em. That's
66 AMerican Wagner?

There is an other type I was referring to, of a different design.
There is no through-pin; the spring is about 1/4" diameter with a
stepped-up diameter end. The other end has a hook. The hook is
pushed therough the shoe and the stepped end stops it from passing
all the way through the shoe. The hook sits above the backing
plate; there's a separate piece that fits through the rear of the
backing plate, a holed tab for the hooked spring. Good luck
getting the hook into the tab behid the shoe. It seems to require
a special tool, and the spring is too small to tolerate any
stretching. That's what I replaced with the typ ementioned above.




> Matt
>
> At 05:31 PM 5/27/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 May 2005, Matt Haas wrote:
> >
> > > Any suggestions on where I can get return springs and hold down hardware 
> > > (this type uses a pin and a spring clip)?
> >
> > My Hornet used the !@#$%!! spring plus square retainer (square
> > hole in the backing plate) which I found to be just a terrible
> > design. I converted it to "normal" bendix-type holdowns; after
> > measuring heights (didn't keep records) i rummaged around at a
> > parts store to find spring and post (the nail-like pin) of the
> > right length. I backed the pin/post thing with a #10 washer. Works
> >
> > perfectly.
>
> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com
> 1967 Rambler American wagon
> 1968 Rambler American sedan
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