From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> A: What I read is that John is bemoaning the fact that the AMC hobby is fracturing ever wider rather than pulling together to a single source of info. Yes, but in reality, it hasn't. Fran's 'instant shutfown' of amcforum.net's Forums dropped 2500 members (or about 1000 active members and 1500 lurkers or former members that never un-joined)...but over 400 have already found their way to the very-similar-looking amcforums.com. The aimoo site of Greybeards was ready sooner, but the familiarity of Brandon's site won out quickly (people hate change), so Greybeard reformatted the aimoo site to become a Texas drag racing site for all makes. By attrition alone, the other Straggler sites will either die off quickly or just garner a very few members That accidentally land there (or choose to NOT be part of Brandon's site because of some ill-will with other members...and/or other personal issues.) Not really fragmented...just a slow recovery and rebuilding going on. John