A: I forgot to mention earlier that my cylinder (from True Torque also) looked difference from the OEM and I had to get different pins between them and the shoes. I think they are manufactured using the Export version as a model. PS: Same thing goes with NAPA's new system. What it is actually asking you all the dumb questions for is so the person looking the part up knows what to look for in the subnotes (in case they don't know how to ask questions like our new guy, who sold the wrong parts several times till I pointed that out) It really should be more widely known, but it seems to be secret information. (kind of like Ford's part numbering system that I was just getting the knack of when I was bumped for having a religious difference with the other manager. He thought he was God and I didn't!) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: brake help, please i'm gonna have the rear brakes on my '68 199 american worked over, and (snip) now the advance part selector is ****ing stupid... after asking me all the questions to narrow my model down, it proceeds to show -all- the brake parts for -all- the models! and if you were in a hurry and/or unscrupulous, you could easily think the bigger cylinders for the v8 10" brakes at 1/3 the cost were correct. i don't know if they physically fit though. -- btw rambler dan's '68 rambler parts page was a great help, but it's now at skidmore, not netheaven. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought