" From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " " Perception is reality, in the sale of autos. Perception can take up to ten " years to change. The question is, can American motors survive that long " without, like Chrysler in the '80s or American Motors in the '60s, some sort " of "outside" help. Uncle Sam guaranteed loans to Lido; USPS bought " Ambassadors: can GM and Ford avoid a repeat performance of Mopar and AMC? " " (snip) " And nobody noted the Detnews/Gohsn rewrite of AMC history? " " "In 1987, Renault sold American Motors cheaply to Chrysler - which used the " company to develop the hugely successful Jeep Cherokee, creating the new " category of sport-utility vehicle." " " Develop? Cherokee? Creating? New? " " " " Or maybe that's good enough for AMC. sigh. that is rather bald-faced, claiming creation of something already in its fourth year of production. " From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " A: The claims I get all the time is that AMC ran the 4 cyl and crappy " underpowered V6, but Chryco put the 4.0L into the Jeep to make it successful " (since they didn't take over until after '87 model year, how would that be " true?) yeah, this is stupid on the face of it. didn't dc already have their own 3.9 dakota v6 by then, or at least in the works? why would they pour $$ into reviving the amc inline and more money reengineering the xj to cram it in when the 3.9 would be a drop kick? and how could they do all this anyway, the same year they took over? even minimal engineering has a lead time. but i suppose those 'experts' are the same ones who 'know' amc got their 360s from ford, or mopar... ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought