Doc, I thought it was Hanoi Jane, since Saigon was the capital of the SOUTH which we were aiding...and Hanoi was NORTH. Cartography aside, I think many of us did stupid things in our youth that we'd look back at now and regret. As a *non-combat* Navy vet myself, I can accept the (repeated, copious and seemingly heartfelt) apologies she has issued again and again. An impressionable young woman, seeking acceptance from a Svengali-type man will do whatever it takes for what she thinks is love. I've watched family and friends do similar, but less publicized, stupid things for love. Heck, I've made an ass of myself for it on many ocassions. Removing the 'fame' element from the equation, she'd have been forgiven if she was Jane Q. Public that drank too much one night, had a car accident and killed someone. We'd look at that same woman 35 years later, after her repeated admissions of guilt and remorse, and we'd most likely have allowed her to 'move on' from it. Only her celebrity keeps this thing alive. I make a large distinction between being anti-war and being anti-troops. I am absolutely against our attack on Iraq, but I'll back every soldier involved in it. I won't support a war BECAUSE I support my troops. I support my troops IN SPITE of my feelings for the war. Jane's goof was an attempt to say that the troops on the other side are just soldiers ordered there by more uncaring leaders ....just more humans dying for someone else's cause. Yes, it was a dumb way to make the point...and a very public one. But the sentiment was never anti-US-soldier. It was anti-US-policy. I think veteran anger is best targeted at those that send our troops to die fighting for monetary interests, and those that would deny them proper financial and medical support when they return. Jane is one flawed woman that made an over-publicized stupid mistake, many, many moons ago. And I think much of the hostility heaped on her back is actually mis-guided anger for the war itself and those that ran it. (Yea- I know...big-time off-topic. Sorry!) John