" From: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " [] " " " Personally, with Diesel @ $1.45 " now - those Turbo Diesel Jettas " are looking better - a little over " $11K used with roughly 60k on " the clocks in eBay - " " but then again, Think AMERICAN : " from '79 - '84 , Cadillac had a Diesel " offering in their line-up - saw one " on Google for $3,500.00 ........ " " big weakness other than being down " on Torque & HP lacking a " TURBO - is they blew head gaskets " with the head bolts stretched. as i hear it, they had other problems. while a good -design- conversion from the olds gas block - which was very rugged - in the gas engine production facility they totally missed the necessary manufacturing tolerances a diesel needs. the chevy 6.2/6.5 is a totally separate design made in a then-new diesel plant, which just happens to be similar in size and mount points to a bbc. " can't believe the prices of used " Diesel engines - whydah thunk ? " " Imagine .....- a Blown Diesel in your Spirit ? hitch - both olds 5.7 and chev 6.2/6.5 weigh about 750 lbs. i've often thought they'd be naturals for a full-size jeep though. btw peninsula diesel in michigan has a 350hp 6.5 turbo. t5s have been used in se asia trucks, so if you could only get the bellhousings there oughta be some sweet nissan, isuzu, or toyota diesels that'd bolt up. datapoint: too small for our cars, but the overseas echo/scion xa-xb has a turbodiesel that makes 90hp from 1.4L. scale that... for new-ish [tj/xj/yj/zj etc] jeeps, look for diesels that use aisin-warner trannies, like toyota... dc themselves has announced an '05 yj diesel, with i believe a mercedes engine and trans. " So............ How aBOUt those 4cyl. AMC " motors ......ehy? Think you could pull " a clean 200HP out of one for a grocery " getter and STILL get great mileage on " used French Fry cookING Oil ? this brings to mind something that smokey yunick diddled up, back in the '80s - the 'hot vapor engine'. his test mule was a fiero and the engine was an iron puke. his idea - in an ic engine, power comes from heat, so keep the heat in the engine. so he pre-heated the intake with coolant, then compressed it with a turbo [which he called a 'vaporizer' iirc, in this app] to maintain charge density, then heated it again with exhaust. at this point, it's so hot that gasoline is completely vaporized, like propane, and that was one of his major goals. iirc he ran stock internals and compression and got no ping on pump gas - and also 250hp from the 2.5L motor. i don't remember what he claimed for mileage, but 40mpg sticks in my mind. this was all writen up in pop sci or something like that. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought