A: Just a thought but shouldn't Jock's line of reasoning mean that GW shouldn't be president, because he's a member of the Republican party and not a Democrat as well? (NOT starting anything. Just a point to ponder) From: <List@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Lumpy Gravy To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:08:48 -0600 Subject: Re: ADMIN: List changes coming = *From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> >From: Brien M. Tourville<HH7X@xxxxxxxxxxx> = *Colin, I am not going to argue for Randy to stay on the list but I think he should be given one more chance and in that chance let him know to keep his posts civil and about AMC's, not some of the other stuff he has posted. > That is Colins call - and as most know - he has posted his response - read it ? * And as far as letting Frank Swygert taking over the list, I am definitely against this. Why? > No one is T'aking over the List' - and - I have no problem with Frank Swygert having oversight of this list - None whatsoever: He is a car & article builder and interested party in projects on this List - which you are mostly not. He is friendly - which you are mostly not either. He does publish out of pocket - Articles on AMC and builder projects - frequently contributes information to this List - which you do not, yet you continue to attack his efforts at every chance you get. * First because he is the publisher of AIM (American Independent Magazine) and as such can in no way, shape or form be truly independent in running this list, which should be most important. > Well, nice you could remember the Name of his Publication finally. You repeatedly wrote :>" what ever you call it" etc. in your last posts this past week. I was sincerely concerned with your Senility ~! As to being truly Independent in running this list - I'm quite certain Frank would show the light impartial touch as needed. Your statement inferrs that Background and Capacity are Liabilities - which in Franks case, is simply not true. *He also has stated he would like to become the president of two AMC (AMO -AMCRC) clubs or at least, an officer in them, and again, like I said he couldnot remain independent in running the list. > Well! Such a statement might provide impetus to others to think about running and joining other AMC involvements. Its good that Talented People remain as actively involved as time allows - it serves the greater need. However it goes - I wish him all the Best, and am certain a lot of positive will come from his Stewardship. *It would be just too easy for him to run people off the list that might seem to him to be detrimental to his magazine, AMO or AMCRC. > I've never seen anything in Franks Posts nor his writings to justify your singularly personal attacks , speaking frankly Jock. * As the long time president and editor of an international AMC car club, I myself should not be the one in charge of an AMC orientated list > ...y'awn', I agree, but not for those reasons , that It would be Best for the List, if you remain a Member in Good Standing and let it go at that. Is the Editing a Car Club anything like Chiefing Parking Lot Attendance? *or should I be one of those chosen to be on the board of list supervisors go can kick people off the list. And neither should Frank Swygert. I truly believe that who ever runs the list and is on the board should be truly independent and unbiased. > I truly believe that regardless of whomever does monitor this list - you have disqualified yourself Jock,... with Distinction. May our AMC-List go forward with the Appropriate Interest and Appropriate Monitor, leaving aside our Regional Maul Segment. Brien. NEW YORK eagle registry #501 eagle kammback registry Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm