A: It's not so much truth or lies that are the problem. The list is not for personal attacks or wars (it says that when you sign up) It's for sharing AMC information. I'm in digest format and the last 10 issues at least were 80% stuff that has nothing to do with the fixing of cars, sharing of ideas, automotive camaraderie or anything of discernable intrinistic value to anyone but the poster. Ignore the people screaming in your quiet reading room? That's a tough trick to do! I know I don't open my AMC-list to read the aggrievances past and present. As much as I like Randy personally and appreciate his knowledge, it was his "choice" to scream back at them (and it should be noted that it is unwise to have provoked him) The emotional baggage of this list is staggering, and in short order there will be a "New Dawn" (not the dishwashing liquid either) and there will be a new guard in charge of the postings, curtailing any further issues of this nature. FWIW, I will pass on any notes from Randy to the list as long as they are civil (All the ones I get from him are) and within the bounds of what this list, YOUR list, is about. From: dap@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: {FORGED?} Another voice has been silenced To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62kAuY6ZqVt00004a10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Well, I hope some of you are now happy. A valuable voice in the AMC hobby community has been silenced on this list. Why? For speaking the truth. He may have been a little abrasive in his approach but I can tell you sometimes this is the only way to get the attention of others. I know some of you have been upset by his remarks. Some of you have been upset by mine as well. I find it hard to believe that this attitude continues today. I guess that some of you are afraid to hear the truth, some of you are afraid to be exposed, some of you do not want to know the truth and many (as expressed in private emails to me) are afraid to speak the truth for fear that you will be sanctioned as well. It has been posted by several to ignore and not read the threads that offend you. For most, that is happening, but for several, your ideas are the only right ones and it is ok to criticize others and call for their banishment from this list for expressing views that are unpopular and are contrary to yours. (snip) Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm