" From: farna@xxxxxxx " " " Jeep was using the even fire V-6 under 231 inches (226??). " Kaiser-Jeep continued the engine as it was when they got the tooling " from Buick with no changes. I'm not sure AMC cast ANY new blocks -- " they used up the stock of parts in a special model CJ (the first " Wrangler, maybe??) for 1971, and may have used it in the 72 Commando " as well (don't have my Jeep books handy for exact dates/models). In " any case, once the stock was used up they didn't make any more, and " made no changes. When Buick got the tooling back they made the " changes, more cubes and that awful odd fire crank to begin with. My " ex wife had a Pontiac Sunbird (78 or 79) when we met with that " shaking odd fire in it! Timng chain noise and vibration were always " a problem with it. Don't know when GM wised up and started making a " new crank for even firing and smoother running. I still don't knwo " the theory behind the odd firing order to begin with! that odd-fire crank was used from the beginning throughout jeep production. as the v6 is a sawed-off v8, the crank essentially is too, so it has a perfect v8 firing pattern - with two holes missing... btw, the 225 weighed less and had twice the hp of the old jeep f-head in the cj5. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought