A: The Postal Jeeps used both the early and late motors with BW trans, but there is 2 different patterns. (We went to put the 999 from the '77 AMX I parted into a '76 DJ and it wouldn't fit, but it did fit a '74. Postal Jeeps got engine swaps every now and then, and probably they just swapped bellhousing during the swap. (Our mailman of the past 5 years was run over and killed last winter by his Jeep when it popped into reverse as the door banged shut and he tried to jump back in, but slid under the wheels instead) From: farna@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: American trans swap To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62kJXrRjbDt00003386@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I didn't know about the starter location change between the 196 and 199/232!! Thanks a lot guys! The Postal Jeeps used a T-35 (M-35) behind the 232 for a lot longer than AMC used that trans in cars, even after AMC switched to Torque Flites. My bet is that the mid 70s Postal Jeeps with the T-35 use the small pattern. The best bet, unfortunately, would be to pull a complete 258 with TF trans and swap that in. Then there wouldn't be as many problems, unless a 199/232 BW trans is located. Did you change to a different trans or overcome the problem AJ?? On February 22, 2005 Andre K Jacobs wrote: > OK, best if you friend calls me, Typing and all are not my gig. The bell > hosing patterns are the same, BUT the housings are NOT. The 196 starter > in moved in . The196 has a basic 90, block- to pan rail set up with > little material angled out. The 199-232 DON'T, and the starter will not > bolt up. 1st hand experience here, I put a 232 in to a 64 with a flat > head 196, I put the trans in twice because of this! > There are small housings in the Jeeps too, I don't know much about it, > just saw one in a 4 cyl postal in a junk yard. Remember that one Fred? > Andre " A.J." Jacobs, > web page http://southtexasamc.tripod.com > (830)-980-3165 , akjamc@xxxxxxxx > > Owner & Proprietor, South Texas AMC Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm