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["Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> <http://www.coachbuilt.com/des/t/teague/teague.htm>
>
> Once again, the BEST AMC info isn't at an AMC URL.

Hey, one paragraph in this article is taken from my site, including
typographical errors. The original can be reached under the amc-y
<URL:<http://www.american-motors.de/>>.
<<

Wolfgang, when I saw how someone plugged that [rather unrelated] Pacer
paragraph into the Teague bio, I wondered why, didn't know who did it, and
didn't imagine that it would be lifted directly from:

http://www.american-motors.de/amcfreng.html

"The Pacer is the first car with cab forward design. AMC's VP of styling,
Richard Teague, created a car with down-sloping hood, tunneled headlights
and huge glass areas giving great visibility. The rear side windows curved
around the back where a big rear door allowed good trunk accessibility.
Doors like portals provided easy entry. The passenger door was even 10cm
longer than the driver's door."

(and if more Americans wrote that well, American education might be worth
the tax money spent on it: the only 'errors' are double takes on
"rear...side" and "Doors...portals" ["giving" once was as good a word as
"affording" but few Americans know either usage now...]), but --- even
though I have no legal right to do so --- I'll apologize FOR whomever stole
your words without asking.

I contributed to the 1999 concours that a now-deceased expert [no "----"
here] who had had less-than-inspiring encounter(s) with AMC experts ["----"
optional] was cataloguing: I did my usual early-'30s act plus some
last-minute cleanup [my AMC interest was known via Packard, Buick and
Cadillac] and I was very happy to be "paid" with a chance to share the day
with Teague's survivors [I can recall offering an unsigned poster here as
contest prize {one of the too-many "former" AMC Listers later bought it for
a song} and I may have noted Dick's son's death here also --- can't remember
as I was also blasted by an AMC list "expert" for posting the obit of Otto
Rosenbusch, the heart of Chrysler Historical] and I wanted to do a little
bit to make AMC seem more, ah, interesting.

Since then, the text has been abridged, borrowed, translated and tapped like
some sugar-maple syrup tree: parts in books and magazines, parts on the net.
I do not own rights to it; I cannot control where it appears.  My complete
Teague "talent tale" still waits to be told.  I leave clues here now and
then, for those who read the "small" print about the "tiny" car company that
may forever be both "cool" commodity and "hot" potato to many.  Among them,
you see, may be me.

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The Amcyclopedia has two problems: It lacks a good design, and it runs
on an old machine. The latter will soon be taken care of. The former
will have to be postponed until
a) someone with design skills helps out, or
b) someone is paid by someone else to do it. Don't hold your breath.
<<

and

>>
John -- what suggestions do you have for the page design? What in particular
is 
difficult or ungainly? I don't mind criticism at all, but would like
suggested
improvement to go along with the criticisms. Maybe it's just the 22 years of
military in me -- the commander always says "don't come to me with problems
unless you have a suggestion to fix it". 
<<

Wolf and Frank, I'm guilty of designing houses (five for me, so far), a few
renovations for family and friends(heaven help[ed] them!), of helping plan
library, office, dormitory and auditorium facilities (two of the first; one
each of the rest, so far) plus zillions of paper-and-pencil autos, but the
only website I'm capable of designing is the Sony album into which I paste
photos and type captions.  (OK, I pick covers and backgrounds; wow.)

I can tell what looks good and what works well, but I haven't a clue how it
is created.  I've dropped in-print hints suggesting that some AMC list users
possess skills to do that (only one might still be around); what I've tried
to make most-realized from my incessant figured-bass chant drone is that for
an AMCyclopedia to equal what Cadillac, Packard and insert-make-name-here
have available online, it needs be a building, a monument, a monolith, a
skyscraper --- a 2005+ -American Center- --- and it need to receive the
recognition of a need, the support of a majority, the involvement of an army
(Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and non-servers) plus perhaps, a
real revolution in the "tiny" old "cold" world of AMC.  The "way it was"
didn't work and the "way it is" isn't working either.  The "way out" may be
the only way ahead for AMC.   

>>
  As far as I have been told and know, the AMC World Clubs (AMCWC) is
dead, kaput, no longer in existence, etc.

I did see your post to the AMC FORUM. Your statement that maybe AMO could
absorb NAMDRA and AMCRC is a bunch of crap. NAMDRA is a very strong club
and has been existence for over 26+ years. hey, maybe NAMDRA should
absorb AMO. Why, because NAMDRA is the club for all AMC'ers and AMC/Jeep
people. Unlike AMO, we have everything they have at their meets and one
thing they don't have! AMC Drag Racing!!! And we are the AMC club that
gives back everything to the member, not paying anyone for what they do,
unlike the other clubs. And unlike you and your newsletter/magazine/what
ever you call it, NAMDRA is non-profit (Hey, I know because I P.J. and I
have spent a lot of money and time for over 25 years in running NAMDRA).

For a person running a for profit newsletter/magazine/what ever you call
it, I don't think you should be recommending one club over the other. All
this does it make it seem like your are affiliated with AMO or a shill
for them. Your newsletter/magazine/what ever you call it would be doing a
lot better if you remained independent, not choosing sides with the AMC
hobby.

There is room for all but I sure couldn't recommend your rag to anyone
because of you comments on the net.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:51:25 -0500 farna@xxxxxxx <mailto:farna@xxxxxxx>
writes:
>  I know Larry Mitchell retired from AMC World Clubs. There were a
> couple candidates to take over the club, but the last time I talked
<<

Or maybe AMC needs to visit Paris.

France is always "hot" and jazzy.

Food's the best, some say.


Bon apetit!