GM Forged Rods on Turned 401 Cranks

["Nick P Alfano" <nick.alfano@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Lynn, or who ever you are,

Before you start taking a tone and spouting your mouth off about who has a 
clue or not, you should step back, compose yourself and be sure you 
understand what you had read.  Nobody was stating anything offensive 
towards you other than to say these are not inexpensive engine builds you 
are talking about like the person who was originally asking the question 
was concerned about.  If you read something else into what I said, that is 
not my problem.   The whole point was how to save money and build a strong 
engine that will perform well not you can take this Chevy rod that costs 
$20 less and build an AMC engine while avoiding all the added costs to use 
that Chevy rod in your AMC engine.  You save nothing when it comes to high 
performance parts whether it be for Chevy or AMC.  Using a 6" Chevy rod is 
a great idea for a whole host of different combinations that many of use 
have done in the past but it is not the least expensive.  It was also not 
stated to try and get people to buy the Scat rods because I have a vested 
interest in them.  I could care less if you do.  As of right now, I don't 
have any obligation to pay for any other sets beyond what I already 
received and all of them have already been spoken for.  If you are tired 
of giving away your secrets as you stated (which I don't recall you 
posting so much of your ever so valuable information that no one else 
knows but you), than just delete the post and keep you hands quite.  If 
you were just having a bad day or misread the post, then no problem, just 
say so and we will move on.  Acting like you are the sole AMC guru while 
insulting others won't fly with me or most on this list that have been 
around long enough to know better.

Sorry if this has wasted others on the list time.  If this comes of a bit 
harsh, it was not meant to be anything other than responding to someone 
challenging my knowledge and falsely accusing me of having a hidden 
agenda.  AMC does not make or break my life.  In fact, it would be much 
easier on me to not be involved beyond my own personal use.  Guess I am 
just a glutton for punishment.

Nick Alfano


Message-ID: <20050130202856.7847.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:28:56 -0800 (PST)
From: lynn peterson <kustomkemps@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: GM Forged Rods on Turned 401 Cranks
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx

You can't get down on me because you haven't got a
clue. Everyone knows you have a vested interest in
your rods and pistons, so goodie for you. Actually, it
was nice of you to take your time to get some AMC
parts made, but I can do just as well or better for
the same or less money. How about a a 410 CID engine
that uses 5.85" long 2.1" journal Scat rods ($350),
455 forged Pontiac pistons, .060 over (4.21" bore,
which is only .045" over the stock bore.) with a 1.497
CH ($307). The crank is not offset ground, but is
ground dowm to the SBC journal size. Not only do you
get a lighter reciprocating mass, but there are better
rod bearings available for the SBC rods than we can
get for our AMC's. By the way, anyone who does not
think the rotatiing mass of a 390/401 is a problem,
just look at the Donahue NASCAR effort, and you will
see they could not run the factory rods and crank,
which was not competitive, and broke in any event.
With all the oiling mods and machine work, this setup,
in short block form, costs ~$1600 to build. If you
read my post you will see it was ONE OF MANY EXAMPLES.
Yes, it did cost $8,000 to build this particular
engine, but it was a 10 hour road race DRY SUMPED
enduro motor. We could have saved nearly $2,000 if we
had not had to totally re- engineer the dry sump setup
ourselves, which cost extra machine shop time.
However, I have now tired of explaining myself and
giving my information away for free. Therefore, ANYONE
who might like information on how to build stroker
motors, oiling systems, ect. send a SASE envelope
along with a $10 postal money order to:

Lynn Peterson c/o
Kustom Kemps
6122 SW 36th Ave. 
Portland, Or. 97221