The local discount parts place I go to (they are good sources if the parts guy doesn't have to think. He thinks Audi makes AMC!!) has done away with the "help" section and replaced it with a source called "Need-a". They have about half a dozen early AMC signal stuff, both the cam and brass part. They run about $9 each. I saw the pre GM columns, the early GM and the late. I bought about four of each to have hanging around. Since I go there all the time he gave me a good-customers discount......Russ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail