Jim B & Frank S. Thanks for the replys. ??You pretty much confirmed what I thought. The HO cherokee I got the manifold and downpipe from was 2wd so the downpipe don't fit because of the front driveshart. Now I'm GUESSING the 4wd Cherokee has a C bend in the downpipe for the front drive shaft like my Eagle. It APPEARS that if this is so, I could use one of these IF I had it cut so the Eagle flange could be welded on it for the Cat seeing as this is also used as a very solid front support for the exhaust system. Anyone see any flaws in this plan. 1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx www.BillAllen.net