The first half of yesterday's note isn't "there" but two people referred to it --- I'm confused, so I'll re-send. (I'm confused by Frank's comment also, and hope that he'll check if a Borward Isabella is really a Skoda cabrio?!) :-) --- Can't drive your GT (mid-engine supercar) because its control arm could be cracked and cause a high-speed wipeout? Can't drive your CV (Police Interceptor) because its gas tank could be crushed and cause a high-stakes barbeque? Can't drive your CM (cerebral matter) because it's stuck back when Arkansas roads were patrolled by AMC Javelins? Then buy a book, buddy, from the AMC-List listings online! Since its holiday bookfair now seems open, we'll add another to the sales shelf. It's: How to Select and Install Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes. H.P. Books, 1971. SBN (no "I" yet) 0-912656-05-0. 144 pages. In 30-year-old new condition. It won't answer every question you've recently had about turbo-charging, but it's a good read from when Kenosha cars were retailed for the roads. Best of all, it's at an AM (AMC mentality) price of $2.00 plus postage. Ho, Ho, Ho! (Seriously, Santa's bookstore is open in WNY today; he may schedule an AMC "garage sale" next spring or summer...) >> picking up some battery cables from them and I'd like to hear << http://www.antiqueautobattery.com/prod011.htm >> Maybe we should enlist Chip Foost to have his way with a Gremlin << And if turbocharged, maybe name it the "Foost Boost" Gremlin? Loose fingers may do funny things, http://www.chipfoose.com/profile.aspx but they also open the door to an observation about loose scholarship. Not one book or article by acknowledged AMC experts includes anything about two different vehicles from AMC history that are also related to one name in Chip Foose's bio. What's not in "Story of..." and "Standard Catalog..." is part of why some in the old car world still laugh at AMC. TV clowns or concours judges, the result is missing value and respect. >> MOST UGLY CARS I have ever seen, Warren Dorrill's "The Shark", 49 Ford ruination, it looks like an accident, really, and there's nothing post-modern about it. Packard Pan-American -- "... whatis unusual today may very well be the accepted thing of tomorrow" << Shark attack? From Ford http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/334238/1 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/334238/2 to forgotten independent, http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/special/04sharkattak/index.html old could be new again. Teague talk? Tomorrow, http://www.desoto58.com/dreamcar/packard/balboa1.jpg new things -were- accepted. http://www.transmissioncenter.net/Packard3.jpg http://www.webmycar.com/zonecar/webacarphoto.nsf/UNID/626F077F85E4D41FC1256D AD005EDD3E/$FILE/xSony_0080061-vi.jpg http://www.nfol.ca/naccc/jpeg_files/CarPics/efarrell_1964parklane/efarrell_1 964parklane49.JPG AMC folks should at least know the "Gremlin" in Simca history, http://www.bilhistorie.no/e70/lav36.jpg but models from the earlier decades are far more interesting. >From the itsy-bitsy cute http://n.v.v.free.fr/images/simca%205%2001%20h036.jpg to the coachbuilt beauty http://www.allsportauto.com/modules.php?name=Sportphoto&zl_idMD=743 to the serious racing (bitte klicken "-->" three times at first link) http://www.motor-klick.de/WueClassic2002/Hensler/page/image6.html and http://photo.popmonkey.com/9905wineclassic/9905group3/big/9905G3_42_Abarth_S imca.jpg and http://www.passionautomobile.com/gd_prix_pau_historique/2003/abarth_simca_20 00_gt.jpg Simca is worth knowing http://www.clubsimca.com/ as is Falk's '59 Peugeot http://www.club-peugeot.com/sveitsi/JPG/columbo.jpg (compare it to a '58 M-B http://www.mbzponton.org/mbz220s/sellswap/mb_220SE_cabrio3.jpg or Kenosha Duesenbergs and Cadillacs; more croissant/less dough?) http://www.allsportauto.com/modules.php?name=Sportphoto&zl_idMD=168 http://www.columbo-site.freeuk.com/car.htm worth knowing also.