Re: T5 Questions

[Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, JOE FULTON wrote:

> OK my question:   I have the chance to get a Mustang
> T5 tranny (world class, I think).  Will the tranny go
> behind the T-150 bellhousing in my 76 Gremlin?  I can
> also get the clutch linkage if I need it from a
> 5-speed Eagle wagon in a local yard.  I would take
> that tranny except for the fact that I know it isn't a
> WC tranny plus I would have to find a tail shaft
> (after I remove the transfer case).  I can also get
> the Eagle bellhousing and clutch if I need it. Will I
> need it?

Well, from

http://www.gremlinx.com/AMC-Transmissions.htm

    T-5 from a Mustang will fit any AMC engine if you get
    the bellhousing from SR-4 ('76-'81), T-4 ('82-'88) or T-5
    ('83-'88), and the throw out arm and bearing, from the same
    bell. Also the front bearing retainer is needed, if you
    don't want to modify the Mustang part. Right clutch disc
    with the correct # of splines that also fits the pressure
    plate you're using, and the pilot bearing is also needed.



It's "been discussed" on this list but there's no solid table
of data on bellhousings that I know of.

It's the sort of thing that John Mahoney rants about, rightly
so, but it's a tough problem.  You either have to have access
to a large installed base (to glean compatibility from actually
installed combos) or have the information in the form of AMC
parts catalogs, and tabulate and cross-reference bells to "what
ought to fit" which even if occasionally wrong would be 100%
better than what we got -- nothing.

Parts catalogs are rare and hard to come by and expensive. I have
one, for 1963. Cost me $50 for a xerox, in 1989! I think people
hoard them out of a misguided sense of power and insecurity.
I realize there are copyright issues, but practically speaking
hand-made copies for non-commercial hobbiest use are unlikely
to get caught in anyone's radar. Also, making copies ain't cheap.

I would x-ref stuff like this on a item-by-item basis if I had
the data, but it's a tall order, 1972-1988 parts catalogs is
a lot of dead trees or fiche.

When my T150 comes from Amer. Parts. Depot I will record the
casting number.