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Mooing-Spewing- 65Rambler wont' start
- From: "Brian Hagen" <brian.hagen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:46:24 -0500
This is the continuing saga of the "mooing" and "carb spewing" 1965 Rambler 
American 232 auto.
What is new:
Plugs, Plug Wires, Coil (Flamethrower coil I had, new), Distributor (with 
Pertronix Elec Ignition conversion), Battery, Battery Cables, Starter
So.. the entire ignition is pretty much new except for the main wiring 
harness.
Last week I did most of that stuff, and when I tried to start the car, it 
wouldnt start and the carb would spew/cough out fuel. The general consensus 
was "your 180 degrees off". Ok. Cool. Lets work with that.
So pulled plug No1, stuck my finger in the hole, and wired a 'manual push 
button starter' so I could kick the engine to feel the "air fart" on 
Cylinder 1 to determine TDC.  ((btw.. thanks for NOT telling me that my 
finger would be "sucked in" first! That scared the bejeezus outta me!)). I 
got the "fart", and then i manually turned the engine so it was at TDC.  It 
did seems I was off 180, so i reinserted the distributer so i was pointing 
at Cyl1 at TDC. And i then redid all the plug wires (sequence) just to be 
safe.
Ok.. so now I should be golden!  Tried to start it... Wrr Wrr Wrr.. Wrr Wrr 
Wrr... Hmm.  Looking down the carb, I see the fuel spray when I pull the 
accell cable, so im getting fuel.  And I tried some Starting Fluid to give 
it a kick. Still nothing.  Wrr Wrr Wrr.
Hm.. So i think, let me see if i have spark. I pulled the Coil cable out of 
the distributor (still connected to coil) and held the end near the block to 
look for a spark. Using the Manual Push button starter jumper thingy.. Wrr 
Wrr Wrr Wrr.. no spark.  So I now have no spark coming out of the coil 
(which would probably explain why it wont start.)
Was I correct in trying to determine spark this way?  I would see a spark 
arc when I did this right?  If so, how can i manual wire the coil to see if 
its the engine harness? Im guessing I connect the POS coil post to 
the....um.....to what?
I made a video of the "wrr wrr"  You can see it here: (or listen)
http://www.brianhagen.com/enginebay/nostart.mov
I also took several photos of the engine bay.. maybe you see something wrong 
that im missing?
http://www.brianhagen.com/enginebay/index.htm
Also for extra credit! Can anyone identify that carb? Its a Carter WCD, but 
i don't think its original since it has a lean burn system on front (which 
is the purple/red wire on the coil btw)
Thank you everyone for all your help
Brian 
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