I appreciate those repying to my post both on and off.... Should have added that, especially the yard I mentioned, the yard master does not allow anyone to pop the hoods on the vehicles. He does this to save the hoods from being damaged in case of the hinges being rust-locked. he has fair notes on evey car, but I have found they are not always right, especially considering the displacement of motors. Of course not ever listening to what I have been told, I have gingerly poped open some of the hoods on things there. thanks again.. info was appreciated and what I was looking for... J. ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist .