From: John McEwen <moparrr@xxxxxxx> Here's an interesting coincidence. Some of you will recall that I am searching for Barcelona medallions for my '78 Coupe. I was notified by several attentive listers of a lot that was on eBay. I subsequently bid on this lot. With four hours to go I was the sole bidder at the opening bid price. I watched the item for a while, then another bid was placed. This was followed by two more bids from another bidder, neither of which beat the second bidder. By now, a considerable amount of money was on the table. At this point, with about 10 minutes to go, I made a (in my opinion) very high bid - which failed to win. I let the item go as I was not going to pay for three items when I needed only two of them - particularly as I considered the price too high. Just now - some 4 hours after the sale, I've been offered a "Second Chance" at my too-high bid. I'm not going to suggest that a shill was working on this but I have my suspicions. The high bidder appears to be a dealer in old car bits as is the seller. I'd like the opinions of the list. Note that I have purposely not identified the seller, or the lot number - and don't wish to bring that information forward to the list in view of the legality of such a revelation. John ---------------------------------- Sounds to me like this one may have been a shilling job. However, if your 'too high' amount had won, this whole issue would be moot. You'd pay and take them, as you voluntarily chose to bid that high. Now that they are offered to you at that price, you're not sure if you want to take them (if I read you right). If so, why did you ever bid that much? This is the self- control aspect that gets bidders in trouble. The shilling did nothing but move the price toward your maximum (which I agree is dishonest). MY suggestion: If the second chance came through the eBay site, and you want them, fine.....pay via PayPal so you have recourse to get your funds back if they never arrive or are worse than described. If the offer was direct via Email, circumventing eBay's built-in 'Second Chance Offer' system, he may be trying to get your money with no intention of sending the items. Check the sellers feedback carefully. Look at his completed auctions for the last 30 days and check the bid history for each...see if the same bidders bid on all his stuff. If he seems clean, send a note back and suggest a lower price more in line with what you feel they are worth. BE COOL and NICE....don't accuse the seller. If he's OK with the new number, have him re-send a second chance offer with the lower number, then buy them. Everyone is happy. John W Rosa http://www.JavelinAMX.com