From: david welch <gandalf_782000@xxxxxxxxx> ...a bright green 71 Jav pulled up to the stoplight. Then in the lane next to it pulls a late model Acura. The guy in the acura started reving the wheezing 4 banger to challenge the jav i guess. The guy in the jav just laughed at him, When the light was green they took off in a cloud of tire smoke, the Acura had him out of the hole, then the jav hit second and left the little jap car in the dust.... most don't really care about AMC and just remembers the ugly cars like the pacer. Dave W. ---------------------------------------- Pacers are ugly? Different, yes...but ugly is a school-bus yellow Pontiac Aztec, or a Yugo. As for the import story, two nights ago I was at a light in my '95 F150 when a 2001+ Civic stopped along side. Now, my 10-year-old F150 is no powerhouse. It's got an enemic 5.0L with a automatic trans, 4WD, 8-foot bed, and a bed cap covering a plethora of construction tools and other gear....and both tanks were at 3/4 full. The Civic had such hi-perf stuff as a coffee-can muffler, 17 or 18" wheels, lots of tint and several nifty rice-boy stickers. Given his weight advantage and 5-speed trans, he should have stomped all over me. Just after the light, the two lanes merged to one. When the light went green, we both wanted to be in front by the merge. well, that little 4-banger did all it could to stay door-to-door with my 115k miles- old truck. By the merge, I simply let off as if neither did, we were gonna trade paint. Naturally, once he had the lead, he slowed to a crawl to let me admire his car's tail lights. After another mile, I got fed up and passed him illegally. His car had no ability to prevent it, hard as that little egg beater whined. And of course, once I was in front, he found a reason to wanna go faster now and tail gated me for miles... even tho I was going 20mph faster than he did when he was leading. Wish my 360 Hornet had been my ride that day! John W Rosa http://www.JavelinAMX.com