The "W" number sounds like the sequential assembly number Brian (the one on the bottom of the door tag). A "W" would indicate the west assembly line at the Kenosha plant. But I just took a look at the number decoding page at www.amcyclopedia.org! 1965 American with 232 six used a starting serial number of W100001. That means the first 65 American w/232 order was assigned that number, following ones numbered sequentially. Note that AMC assigned the serial number (or VIN from January 66 on) as cars were ordered, not built. The sequential assembly number on the bottom of the door tag is the order the car came off the assembly line. Models were mixed in batches on the three assembly lines, so the number 10001 assembled car might be an American and the 10002 car a Javelin. The big cars were all built on one line (Ambo, Classic, etc) and the small cars built on the other. Both were built at Brampton, Canada, depending on the year. In later years some small cars were built on the b! ig car line also (after 74). -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Independent Magazine" (AIM) For all AMC enthusiasts http//:farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) > From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Vin number location - 65 Rambler > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411081526070.3511@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Brian Hagen wrote: > > > Can someone clue me into where i can find the vin code for my 1965 Rambler. > > DOesn't ahve one -- VINs started in 1967? or so. There is a > serial number on a tag spot-welded to the spring tower (sounds > like you found that already). > > > I had thought it was the number (starts with W) on the front passenger fender, > > but this number doesn't match the one on my title (the old title from previous > > owner). I have to title and register the car this week and don't know if i > > should use the number on my title or the W-number on the fender? > > Can't help you there -- if the mysterious number on the title > matches some number actually on the car, you mguiht be able > to convince the DMV someone recorded the wrong number (usually > > DMV folk don't know about pre-VIN cars). >