Thanks Matt, that's exactly what I was looking for! The paint on my Ambo is pretty bad, there's obvious drip marks and over-spray from somebody taking a spray can to it. There's also been a poor bondo job done on it in one spot, all in addition to some areas of light rust. I suspect that I'll end up taking wide swaths of the original paint off myself, my goal is to get the body in a position where I can take it to a Maaco for a quickie paint job. Eventually I'll want to have a nice, show quality paint-job done but there's too much other work to do before it's ready for that. My initial goals are to get it running reliably enough so I can take it to the local cruise-ins then get an inexpensive paint-job so that it looks at least reasonable and it's protected from further rust and damage. John M. Livingston 1965 AMC Rambler Ambassador 990-H http://1965rambler.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx> To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Question about body work / paint prep... John, Short question, long answer. How bad is the surface rust? Is it really light or is there deep pitting? If it's light surface rust, do the following: - Wash the car with a good grease cutting dish soap and towel dry. - Degrease the area you're working on with a wax and tar remover. - Sand with 60 or 80 grit to get most of the rust off. Make sure you sand back a few inches from the visible rust to make sure you get it all and that you dust the area off frequently so you can see what you're doing. - Treat with a rust converter such as Navel Jelly (this is a mild acid -- make sure you follow the directions). Make sure that the rust converter can be painted over with the type of primer you're using. - Wash with detergent, dry quickly, and degrease again. <SNIP>