The car doesn't have a throw out bearing... They can make awful noises.. Once I had a 1942 Dodge business coupe fluid drive that the mounting bolts for the torque converter has loosened and was making a pretty good noise spinning against the rear main seal. Maybe a squirt of WD40 up through the inspection plate may alter the noise and help pinpoint the trouble if you can't actually see it. But the starter sounds most likely to be involved in this to me. Let us know what you find and how you fix. Lots of times these old cars pick up new ailments simply from being parked. The oil settles out and sediments can cake up the works, the coolant sometimes turns to acid, gaskets dry and shrink, hoses rot and crack, and then there are squirrels, rats and mice, and chickens and cats that get into them not to mention two legged coyotes. _____________________________________________________________________ Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx> Business Card Page - http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ "I have an inferiority complex. But it's not a very good one." ------------previous message- Subject: dying cows Not being completely familiar with dying cows and the sound they make, can you relate automobile noises that compare to hissing cockroachs, beer can pyramids falling or angry wives? How about bear rumaging or fingernails on chalkboards......Russ