Re: LPG / LNG Injection > the Future Fuel

["Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

A: Thanks for the link, Brian! I haven't been in touch with any of my Ozzie 
or Kiwi buddies in some time so I didn't know what was up down under. I have 
been building up my own rig to run LPG, CNG or later hydrogen (takes some 
money, but I want to do it once) I could even run alcohol and maybe even 
biodiesel (but my stroker would run poorly and I don't think it quite has 
the strength for long term usage. Besides, it would become a smoker 
stroker!)
   When I lived in Canada I did a number of CNG and LPG conversions and 
learned to deal with the needs of the 130+ octane fuels. (CNG will run in a 
regular motor but because of the massive tank needed for such a small 
amount, LNG will be the way to go once technology cures the last of the 
problems)
   I had someone tell me today when I mentioned having a LPG powered rig 
"Man I wouldn't want to be near your car! 1 bullet and you'd take out a city 
block!" I informed him that unless it was a rapid fire weapon with tracers 
and steel jacketed slugs, it was more likely to ignite a gas tank than an 
LPG tank because it had a narrower band of fuel/air mix where it will burn 
than gasoline. That and the tanks are generally rounded, and thicker steel 
than gas.
   Out in the wild woods of Alberta (many years ago, on CFB Cold Lake's 
furthest outpost where setting off ordinance, C4 and Forcite was allowed), a 
long ways from civilization, we attempted to explode a 1/2 full CNG tank 
that had been in a vehicle fire and the Highways Canada inspectors had 
condemned the tanks. We took turns shooting at it from a bunker with FNs and 
got some dents. I moved up to a 3.03 and put bigger dents in, and finally 
nicked one of the valves and all the fuel drained out FAST while we tried to 
shoot the moving tank and ignite it.
   Sadly, it wasn't to be. Wish we'd had some C4 and caps to see it go up. 
(this from the guy who, at 11 years old, stood on top of a '64 Ford gas 
tank, lighting it numerous times to use as a flame thrower on blackberry 
bushes till it ran low enough that the internal mix was just right. Just as 
I jumped on, it lit off and I landed several car lengths away and felt like 
I'd never breath again from the concussion! The tank looked like it had 
turned inside out!)


From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: LPG / LNG Injection > the Future Fuel
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http://www.gas-injection.com.au/index.html


Europe is and has been ahead of USA in
alternate fuels for at least a decade or more.

I researched some of their material online >
huge LNG organization world wide with
meets > rallies etc.

Canada has for decades run their
Cab Fleet and Police Fleets on LNG
or LPG.

Sleeger Inc. is the main manufacturer
for LNG / LPG automotive fuel tanks.

The above URL will show you the missing
link as to LNG / LPG and EFI / current EFI
systems conversions.

Bookmark the site - as I believe you'll be
looking for it in the Future.

Canada has Massive LNG reserves >
need a pipeline to the USA > no one
is talking that yet > discourse is about
LNG Ocean Terminals that need to be
built etc. > and new Refineries on
former Military Bases > not a bad idea

but will be at least a decade away.