Re: [AMC-list] AMC Eagle occasional starting question

["Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

A few of the facebook comments (and all appreciated)

Have you tried a different IM Eddie?

Hard start is either a lack of spark or a lack of fuel. On the fuel side it 
could be the carb is draining down. For spark it could be a faulty coil.
Starting and stalling is all part of owning a carb'd vehicle pump it once 
more and restart it
Have you tried another IM in place of the new one. We get reports of faulty 
new ones --$34 one does not indicate a really good one. The good ones are 
running about twice that much these days. For about $100 you can replace the 
dizzy and the electronics with a Skip White Delco style all-on-one 
distributor.
Take a good close look at the wiring going to the distributor and ignition 
'computer'. Somewhere along the way I think a piece of the wiring is a 
'resistance wire', and it functions like a ballast resistor in a Chrysler. 
If it is bad, the car will crank and start, but die as soon as the key 
returns to the run position.
Check the rubber fuel line from the pump to the delivery line. It took me 
two months to find a crack in that rubber hose back there. My car ran fine 
but it would die for no apparent reason. Turned out to be a rotten hose back 
there.
sounds like fuel supply to me. Gunky and clogged sock on the pickup, clogged 
fuel filter, a glob of crud floating in the tank, stuck float in the carb, 
pin hole in a fuel line allowing it to siphon back to the tank....anything 
that will cause the fuel to not be in the carb.
See if there is a heat gasket under the carb i ni it sounds weird but some 
cars around that time have them and when they tend to acked up sometimes 
they ack like what your saying are the symtons or next move is to change the 
coil or your disturbuter may be acking up
I had a rotted rubber fuel line from that went to the pump's supply line. 
But, I was not getting a gas to the carb when that happened. The resistance 
wire could be the culprit but they usually are good or not good.
I agree with Doug. Those ignition modules are good for this sort of 
shenanigans.
Even back in the day when these cars were newer the Motorcraft Replacement 
IM's went from junk to somewhat reliable, and the price indicated which was 
which.
my replies: On the IM, if that is the ignition module, yes, changed it out, 
$34 at O'Reillys, got the good one not shit house brand. Gas appears to be 
going into cab, there is NO emissions hooked up. Can look down carb and push 
acc rod and see gas go down no problem. Idles great once started. Coil...I 
did not replace, yet! Carb pump, didn't think of that but seems to be more 
electronic than fuel. From amc list: " check the stepper motor on the 
feedback carb. I believe the o rings tend to leak or the motor quits working 
and sticks in one place. Then it either lean or rich." Not sure where this 
is but do remember Steppenwolf back in 1960s. Appreciate all the replies 
also so far. Doug, agreed, have bought 'brand new' starters at major parts 
stores only to install them and no good and make like Groundhog Day of AMC 
starters. One parts manager told me that when they send cores to be rebuilt 
in Mexico, 'they only replace what is needed' so guess that is where 
lifetime warranty comes come. Dan, will take a look around the distributor 
did look well at wires around 'ignition computer' thing also. Well a 'cold 
front' came in a few hours ago, and temps dropped from 78 to 40s in matter 
of hour, and supposed to 'feel like' 14 tomorrow with wind chill, so will 
have to put this 88 on hold & just drive Hornet, Concord, other Eagle or 
Ambassador. I appreciate all the suggestions, and son even said why don't I 
put small video on you tube like did years ago with Concord backfiring thru 
carb, everyone figured that one out. Except me at time....
Eddie Stakes
713-464-8825 days
www.planethoustonamx.com

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From: "Ken Ames"


Carb float sticking shut? It'll run for a few seconds on what's in the carb, 
then die. Needs more cranking to get gas back into the carb.
AMHIK. :)
Ken

From facebook replies: "On the IM, if that is the ignition module, yes, 
changed it out, $34 at O'Reillys, got the good one not shit house brand. Gas 
appears to be going into cab, there is NO emissions hooked up. Can look down 
carb and push acc rod and see gas go down no problem. Idles great once 
started. Coil...I did not replace, yet! Carb pump, didn't think of that but 
seems to be more electronic than fuel. From amc list: " check the stepper 
motor on the feedback carb.  I believe the o rings tend to leak or the motor 
quits working and sticks in one place.  Then it either lean or rich." Not 
sure where this is but do remember Steppenwolf back in 1960s. Appreciate all 
the replies also so far.

check the stepper motor on the feedback carb.  I believe the o rings tend to 
leak or the motor quits working and sticks in one place.  Then it either 
lean or rich.
Bruce
=================
  Eagle starting question. My wife's 88 Eagle, recently started acting up. 
you go to start it, turns over fine, sort of starts then dies. I have 
changed  the ignition module, starter relays, solenoid. Most times, just 
cranks up, runs & drives great. But earlier today I took it to Office Depot 
& it did same thing. On 3rd try cranking it ran fine, drove home. Ignition 
rotor, cap, wires, plugs only about year old. Trouble shooting advise 
appreciated.
Eddie Stakes
713-464-8825 days
www.planethoustonamx.com


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