Yes, had to push brake then button to start so not sure how Jacob, who is 8, did that. Also don't explain how he started it in parking lot of hotel we stayed at, as I was not near car. Some other oddities, the doors would sometimes lock and unlock mysteriously. The key fob thing had a lock, unlock and trunk deal on it. But inside car would lock automatically. So kept door open while at beach. Reading a Nissan site a mechanical key could never start a 'intelligent key' ignition car (push button ignition) though. I never saw a key of any type unless it was inside the fob, but like under hood, never looked for it. The remote lock/unlock thing seemed to have a range of 15 feet however as the kids had lots of fun with that option making it chirp from distance. Was neat car but would never own one it's not AMC powered! Paige did panic when locked key fob thing inside trunk and even considered calling Hertz for advise, but her phone was inside trunk, along with fishing bait, tackle and cooler however, but being old school I eventually found a tiny lever bottom of dash to release trunk open. And I honestly don't think the inside trunk release is a good thing, to me, it is sad reflection of society with kidnappings and carjackings. Before this thread gets way off base with non AMC crap....have to add AMC stuff to it as per Jim Stone's amc-list rules from last century (anyone ever hear from him anymore?). Sold my 81 Eagle 4x4 wagon with the 4cyl, 4spd, it will be driving around Ypsilanti, Michigan. No push button dash dealie, no gas door release rod to step on, no push button anything except AMC AM/FM radio though. Horn is push button also if that counts...... Eddie Stakes 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Price Eddie, sorry but your way off base on that button. It only works if the key fob/keyless entry is in the front seat area. Then you have to put your foot on the brake and hold it or no start. Try to lock key in the car? nope, won't let you. Try to lock key inside car? nope won't let you. if you shut the car off and push the button to leave the radio on that is pretty much the only thing that stays on. Once that FOB is outside the car it won't start. The damn things are big cars as far as I'm concerned. You drove that car, did you realize it did all that running with a 2.5L 4 and a constant variable trans? My wife bought one, we have had it for a couple of years and not one single issue. NONE 24-26 mpg in town, 30-34 on open highway. If you look at the serial number and it says 1N then you got yourself a genuine made in America Nissan. Probably has about the same amount of U.S. content as the new "big three's". On the Altima note. Wife bought a new 98 loaded, leather, everything. She put over a 100K on it, odometer broke at 139K when my son was driving it. A year later i put a used cluster in it. Using my poor math skills it has a minimum of 165K, probably 175+ It shakes rattles and rolls, it needs motor mounts, struts and that is all. Has a ricer exhaust on it my son installed. I drive it now since it gets 24-26 or so compared to 14.8 on summer blend fuels in my Grand Cherokee. It's a POS, but it just keeps on going. Wife said to sell it, nah, it puts 5 vehicles on a 4 driver household which believe it or not dropped our insurance by $400! I don't want one, but in our extended family, My BIL and his two daughters have three Altimas, my wifes makes four, her cousin makes 5 and his has an honest 160K on it! 2008 models all of them, one 2009. For a certain part of the market Nissan hit the nail square on the head, or so it seems. Mark Price markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxx Morgantown,WV 26508 "who said that?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC V8 Heat Riser I have a confession to make, I rented a Nissan Altima a few weeks ago to drive down to Corpus Christi to visit brother. Good running car, great AC system, great gas mileage too. No key. That's right no key, you have little alarm thingie on chain that opens doors, locks doors, opens trunk and that is it. Once car is opened, ANYONE can start car as I found out when 8 year old Jacob pressed ignition switch. My first thoughts were 'uh, didn't RAMBLER have this push button crap on dash in early 1906s?' Second thought was anyone could steal the car and I'm used to leaving my windows open on my AMCs...it is no big deal, and dissipates heat inside car and not like anyone will steal a AMC. But once car is unlocked, even seagull could start car, didn't like that feature. I believe this was a 4 banger something under hood, never bothered to look, unusual for a car guy, but never looked and not sure why. Something that really creeped me out on the Nissan Altima was inside the trunk has a 'emergency release' to pull in case you are carjacked and kidnapped and thrown in trunk. Think about that. Something else on the car I see problems with is the gas door release lever is next to scuff plate on driver door, who is idiot who put that there. Never mind, whoever idiot designer or enginess was might be brilliant....as millions will break this little plastic piece of junk simply getting in or out of car....therefore Nissan will sell millions of those flimsy plastic gizmos. Otherwise nice car, good room in trunk, inside car, kids liked the fadeaway courtesy lights inside car. The only reason I rented this Datsun Altima was because they were out of Chevy Malibus. One more thing, AMC was in talks with Datsun in late 1970s. Think about that.....if AMC had teamed up with Datsun, as opposed to Renault, better than average chance AMC would still be around in some format. Best of all, our push button dash dealies would be in vogue again. Eddie Stakes 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Consider rain headed your way, you can have all our excess humidity too for that matter. > Engine heaters were very important up here years ago when carbureted engines were the > norm, and what with that pesky 30 below crap always honkin on our hindends. now that the > Germans got us all on fuel injection and computer monitored we do't need em any more so > I guess your collection might just stay yours for some time. Don't think carbs of the > fuel handlin kind are comin back anytime soon, however carbs of the beer variety are > close at hand, > Tank care Eddie :-) > > Armand >>I have started AMCs in 20 degree weather, and yes, takes a few minutes to warm up, but >>probably because I disconnect chokes on all my cars also, along with no heat riser. >>Today however didn't hit 100 degrees, woohoo/.....first day THIS MONTH not 100 degrees >>all time record. On other hand supposed to hit 107-110 Fri/Sat/Sun as dry air filters in >>behind hurricane Irene, so heats up really quick....on top of our 'worst drought in >>history' now, the ground has cracks big enough to park Pacers in. >> >> But no, don't know what 30 degree below zero is but DO have a pile of NOS AMC & Rambler >> Engine Block Heaters for no reason. Not for sale just stuff I collect. >> >> Thanks for explanation below on what heat riser actually does in climates where you >> have uh, seasons that change. I always though it was good only to squeak at in >> opportune times when trying to impress a woman or impress guy next to you in car he >> thinks is fast, only to rev engine and have rattle & squeak make it sound like AMC >> needs big wind up key on back turned again. They also are good to paint & give kids if >> too cheap to buy LEGOs. Look like could be good fishing weights too perhaps! Now send >> us some rain. >> Eddie Stakes >> 713.464.8825 >> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.planethoustonamx.com _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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