Re: [AMC-list] ugly cars of past 50 years

[Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is getting off-topic so delete it if you are offended......

Actually I know a little about recycling those batteries (smaller versions of 
those in the Prius).   We handle a lot of small NiMH batteries at work along 
with many other kinds of batteries in recycling electronics.
The NiMH batteries go to one of several vendors in the U.S. which crush them and 
recover plastics and ferrous metals from the cases and melt the cores into an 
alloy that is sold to the steel industry.  According to a recent third party 
audit at a recycler we use in Wisconsin, almost nothing goes to landfill.   Even 
the paper from battery labels is sold to the recycle fiber industry.   


And they aren't shipped as hazardous waste per se.  They may have a hazardous 
materials designation under the DOT rules but they are shipped as Universal 
Waste which doesn't require the paperwork, special transporters, etc. of 
hazardous waste.

Oh and  some Rambler content:   I found what I hope is the proper shift rod for 
the Rambler Classic but I got the homemade rod (made by the P.O.) to work 
yesterday anyway.   The "proper" shift rod is being shipped from AZ later this 
week.  The seller is parting out a 64 Classic 660 in the phoenix area.  You can 
see his ad on craigslist and he is very easy to deal with.  I still haven't 
moved the car under it's own power yet though.  Like I've said before I'm slow.

Joe Fulton


----- Original Message ----
From: Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 5:00:04 PM

Subject: Re: [AMC-list] ugly cars of past 50 years
yes, it clearly has met its design goals -- increasing toyota sales
and dominating a growing market niche.  but everyone - owners not
least of all - have been drinking the prius kool-aid.  in figuring
total lifecycle costs, from mining environmental impact through
operating costs over its service life to scrapping and recycling,
consumer reports costed the prius right up with suvs like the hummer
h3.  among other things, those NiMH batteries contain substantial
haxardous waste and their manufacture produces substantial hazardous
waste...

conclusion:  the prius is not an economical environmentally friendly 
car.  it's all hat and no cattle.
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