Re: [AMC-list] Randall AMCs & regional AMCs was: Rebel Machine rims

["Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

David that don't surprise me. There were many a dealership that had special vehicles unheard of in maybe next county over. Sometimes AMC didn't even know about it. Randall's AMC out in Mesa was dropping 401s in Pacers even, and AMC sent team out to see what's up with this. I don't remember the executive's names except several were with marketing. And they liked what they saw. Next year Pacer had production 304V8, no 401s like Randalls dropping in them, or custom flair kit, that would have been nice but here is classic case of right hand not knowing what left hand doing. Left hand being company that makes the vehicle, and right hand company that modifies it to their specifications. 

There are hundreds.....no one will ever know....(gee, the no paper trail thing again) of local, regional and actual Kenosha blessed mods that were made. Some well known like 67 Rebel wagons Briarcliffes, Westerner and Mariner wagons

http://www.bigflea.com/amc/

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_ads/AMC_Mariner.jpg

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_ads/AMC_Westerner.jpg

to Rebel Raiders

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_ads/AMC_Rebel_Raider.jpg

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_ads/AMC_Raider_Driveaway.jpg

Ambassador Yellow Jackets

http://www.arcticboy.com/media/bigcars/ambo-yellowjackets.jpg

even more mentioned in the Badger Javelin file off my site, uh, forgot about that one sorry:

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/badgerjavelin.htm

my favorite is possibly the Canadian 'Green Hornet' editions made mentioned there. There were Mexican VAM specials also, and I would guess, Australian and Euro AMC special cars built we have never heard of or will never know except some like Karmann Javelin. 

http://www.american-motors.de/en/karmann/

I would not read too much into 'unofficial approval' of the Randall Gremlin venture....AMC knew exactly what it was doing sending 30 401s down after Randall had already modded others.

http://www.gremlinx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83&Itemid=152

too bad it never became a production vehicle but insurance companys were already clamping down on muscle cars and performance by that time. $3K for a 72 Gremlin 401. Ah, those were the days. 
Eddie Stakes
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Price 
  To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] re: Rebel Machine rims Hemmings Find of the Day - 1972 AMC AMX





  Eddie 
  you are always giving us so much info that I never knew. I have never seen or heard of the 8 slot wheels. but when we are reminiscing we should remember all the nice oddities had a steep price back then. I looked into getting a Randell 77 hornetAMX when i was buying mine. I was told that having them convert it to a 401 would be an extra $2,000 that,s on a car loaded that costs $6400 and yes that was more than a Z28 or a Trans Am. Then image my shock when i moved to Denver and found out that it was not sold here with with a V8 because AMC did not want to go through the expense of having the car tested for high altitude emissions.






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  From: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:26:58 AM
  Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] re: Rebel Machine rims Hemmings Find of the Day - 1972 AMC AMX

    
  How would one know what to order? A quick look around at leftover dealer stock or trade
  ins on the lot usually helped. Had a nice longer conversation with old customer yesterday,
  and part of conversationw as his email:
  ========================
  Eddie,
  Thanks for your reply! I thought all of the console woodgrain went horizontal. Your site
  is absolutely amazing. I have been looking at AMC's since 1965 when I would ride around on
  my 150cc Honda Beneley (like the 250cc and 305cc Dream) in TN going to new car
  dealerships, and was taking Motor trend and Hot Rod in the early 60's.I was attracted to
  the previews regarding each new Model year, and was going to the Drag Races at Virginia
  Beach Dragstrip in 1962 & 1963.
  I lived where Chevy was King and Ford & Mopars were the only other rides. I would drive my
  motorcycle to Nashville, and Chattanooga to see AMC's and Sunbeam Tigers in the showroom.
  I had a nice Visit a few months ago in Montgomery to the Alabama Department of Public
  Safety at the Criminal Justice Center where I have researched many sources, and
  interviewed many Top Brass and now retired troopers Since 1994.
  For many years I was not able to get much correspondence from John Rosa, and that site is
  now just on hold until John Gets it updated. John and I finally connected and he has
  credited me for the information I had verified and validated, and I thanked him for that.
  I have the 1972 Gold (Yucca Tan) longest serving ADPS Javelin (9Years), and the only known
  to exist 1972 ADPS Ambassador which is in great shape with all the property #'s still in
  place, and would like to finish the Javelin, but will install original display Radio
  equipment for both that I have gleaned through sources in Alabama.
  I am going through a small 40 year accumulation of NOS parts for the 70 AMX and Javelin.
  In reviewing your dash # collection I noticed the glove box plaque AMX 01275, and I have
  the glove Box and Plaque AMX 01270 with the SS VIN off a Black wreck that the junkyard
  would sell me but would not sell the car.
  Stay in touch, and be sure to let me know what you may be looking for. I just bought a Big
  Bad Green white stripe loaded AMX that will need full restoration, but I have all the
  stuff for.
  ======================
  He ordered a black/black 70 AMX new. When the dealer called him to pick up there was issue
  of insurance $900 a year. The Buick AMC dealer had never had a Javelin or AMX on lot, so
  was oddity. All they had ever sold was Ramblers at Security. So I don't recall if he got
  back deposit or not, but they sold car to a Middle Tennessee football player next day. No
  one knows what happened to car after that.

  Relevance being not all dealers knew every option and accessory. Some didn't even know
  certain models like SC/Rambler or SC/360 Hornet existed. Many could not name some of the
  veteran AMC NASCAR, Trans Am or SCCA races like Paschal. Few dealers ever heard of Topel
  Rebel or Randall Gremlin XR-401 or P38 Gremlin or Hornet Rallye. Had to pick up books, and
  not all books current, updated, or had photos or ordering information so had to make
  calls. And when you went to order your new AMC, order forms always had extra lines to
  customize add ons:

  http://www.planethoustonamx.com/main/69_amc_order.jpg

  of which "stuff" was written in if customer wanted, and dealer could ID it:

  http://www.planethoustonamx.com/main/70_amc_order.jpg

  PS: the 8 slot rally rims AMC had starting in 1971 you had 14, and 15 inch type. Those
  too, made by KH....and while they don't show up in all dealer catalogs...or Group 15
  Accessory books, were available into 1979 to order, but AMC still had mess of them in
  inventory past when Mopar bought out AMC. I ended up with about 40 of them, 14 inch, in
  Carlsbad TX dealer buyout in 1990, some in box, others not, all $20 a rim NOS. Not sure
  how one would order them after Mopar buyout, but Mopar stuck "J" in front of AMC part
  numbers on everything.
  ======================
  on this comment:
  no kidding! the standard AMC wheels were considered boring.(and all other factory 
  issued wheels from any maker). after all they were all over the place. soon as i could 
  afford it i bought the Western 5 spoke, which was a much lessexpensive SS look alike. now 
  when my poor, starving nephs & nieces spend $400 for a phone, i try to remember that. 
  years later i wanted all stock, thank goodness my parents don't throw anything away, they 
  still had the original wheels, though a little dusty.
  =======================
  I wished I had pulled ever 14 & 15 inch 8 slot rally rim at Houston pick a parts in 
  1980s/90s, only $8 for steel rim. No place to put them, and watched HUNDREDS of them get 
  crushed along with whole cars. Also wished had $1 for every (pick 1) original air cleaner 
  assembly, smog equipment, thrown away in 70s/80s replaced by purdee shinee chromie 
  aftermarket one; also wished had $1 for ever dash drilled into for gauges, and door panel 
  cut for speakers. It's what people did in 70s.
  =======================
  and: Back in those days though, lots of folks ditched the stock wheels on their rides in 
  favor of the Keystone Classic, Crager SS, and Centerline mags. It would be pretty cool to 
  see those put into production again!
  ========================
  You can still get the Cragar SS rims in 14 inch.....also 15 and big 17 inches:

  http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/?fid=2

  A look thru Summitt and Jegs also shows a variety of Cragar rims. Timeless rims.
  Eddie Stakes
  713.464.8825
  eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.planethoustonamx.com






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