A few caveats here: There are TWO bell to trans bolt patterns for the 196, early and late. Early would be all the four point engine mount cars, pre 63 big cars, pre 64 Americans, late would be any car with a three point mounting system. The upper two bolt holes are the same, the lower two are around 1.5-2.0" lower on the late models to give the engine/trans link more resistance to flexing down in the center. Just something to think about if you're ever looking for a used T-96. The T-14 of course uses the late pattern. I don't know of a five speed that will bolt to the T-14 bell, so unless a 1972+ six is used a five speed would be hard to do. Modern Driveline makes a T-5 adapter for the early Falcon six and would be willing to make one for the late T-96/T-14 pattern bell housing. The Mustang V-6 trans would work. ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:15:29 -0500 (EST) From:adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) " And the 232 was an option in '65 (my year car) - so could look pretty " appropriate, especially if it bolts up to the T96. it does. the only common '60s i6 bell has the t96/t14 pattern, and there are t14 and multipattern late bells. iirc in '65 232s only had autos, but t96 was std '66-7 and t14 '68-9. also - you may think you're happy with your t96, but if you do much stop-and-go, once you put a t14 in you'll wonder what took you so long... " (although a 304 and 5 speed stick might be seriously cool!) no reason you couldn't have a 232 and 5sp! -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://www.amc-mag.com (free download available!) _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com