Now that's an interesting experience. The old Superior slotted chrome wheels on the Javelin had a way wrong offset to them. That caused me a ton of trouble in fender clearance. Now with the new Ansen wheels and Fierce tires (rear 255/45R17), and the correct offset, problems went away. It's amazing what finding the correct knowledgeable guy to get wheels from can do for your car. Now I have so much front end room in the fenders and suspension brackets that I think I could lower the front nearly three inches and still have plenty of room. Front wheel/tire is (235/40R17). Maybe you have the wrong offset wheels. Set too far to the outside. Rolling the fender lips helps too. I don't know if I would do that but...... Anyway you look at, my experience is never to lessen the suspension travel, unless the car will be a track car only, and then the thing to do would be install droop limiters. Constant bottoming out and hammering against the stops over bumps only causes damage elsewhere in the car, the suspension is hindered by insufficient jounce travel and cannot do the job it was designed to do. Armand ----- Original Message ----- From: <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Javelin suspension Depending on wheel tires sizing you may want to actually shorten wheel travel. Not lengthen it. Mine would stuff the tire to far up in the wheel well and on a tight turn the tread would grab the fender. I bought some long 2 or 3 inch poly stops. They stopped that. The loss of wheel travel is not noticeable. To me anyway. Our roads suck too! I run 40 year old Rogue V8 springs 1 5/8" drop plates and 205/60/15 tires. I used the old springs on purpose as my American is a 6. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:53:25 To: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family<amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Javelin suspension The only cautions I can add to this is that by lowering the ride height using shorter springs and blocks, as described here, will result in less suspension travel. The rubber suspension stops can be moved to restore the travel, although not without some effort. It's probably not a big problem in SoCal where there aren't many bumps in the road, but here in MN potholes are prevalent. Re-align the front suspension and steering immediately after lowering. Armand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Swygert" <farna@xxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Javelin suspension > An inch lower on the springs shouldn't hurt a thing, but I wouldn't go more than that with the springs. You can use a 1" thick lowering block on the rear axle. Local parts store might even have one of those around. > > ----------- > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:16:00 -0600 > From: Greg DePratt <gdepratt@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent them a note on their website and already got a quote! While I'm at it > I think I'd like to change the stance on the car just a bit and lower it all > around (maybe an inch)? I've seen some pics online, especially like the Jav > on > http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehicles/ccrp_0710_1969_amc_javelin_sst/index.html > > Can I get by with having them lower the springs by an inch up front? Will > all the suspension geometry be ok without any other modification? Sorry > probably a dumb question, but I just want to be sure I don't mess up > anything else. I will still need to do something with the rear end > suspension to match it up to the front. > > -- > Frank Swygert > Publisher, "American Motors Cars" > Magazine (AMC) > For all AMC enthusiasts > http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html > (free download available!) > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/09 6:16 AM > > _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/09 6:16 AM _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com