Others here told me dry if it is going to be fired ASAP. 3 in 1 oil if it is going to be while as 3 in 1 has no detergents in it and will allow the rings to seat. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:21:52 To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Fwd: Piston Ring Breakin Regimine If the motor was to be fired up right away and you had coated rings, then yes I would run the pistons dry. I have had motors with chrome rings that didn't want to seat and we revved a mix of Bon Ami (never scratched yet!) and water through the carb inlet while at mid RPM, then rev just enough to clear it out. From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-list] Fwd: Piston Ring Breakin Regimine Message-ID: <c81e13651002072036w51f8cda1sf1243c2cc3bdc42f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Any comments on this methodology? Nate is a very serious long time pro mechanic. A genuine greybeard. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nate I assemble the pistons , rings and cylinders dry ~ I use a paper towl and window cleaner in the bores until a clean dry white paper towel comes out spotless ~ no grey stuff indicating SWARF from honing or boring (I don't often hone or glaze break either) . I use thick oil on the crank journals and on the new bearing shells , cam lube on the cam lobes and lifter bases to avoid scuffing . Engine all buttoned up , head torqued and valves adjusted ignition timing set (about 10* BTDC), run it sans plugs until oil light blinks or oil begins weeping out the rockers , Tachometer connected , a watch with sweep second hand under the wipers where it cannot drift or slip out , install the sparkplugs , goose the throttle until I see a healthy squirt of fuel , turn on the key and crank it ~ the instant the engine fires , I hold the throttle until it climbs to 3,000 RPM , (2,000 if new cam) and hold it there for the full 60 seconds . once 60 seconds has passed , I shut it off and allow to cool down 100 % ~it'll be hot . yes , the exhaust will smoke profusely , this is normal . Once cool 100% (important) I re-adjust the valves (here you'll re-torque the cylinder head I guess) and check the timing again then re-start the engine and check and adjust the timing again as needed , tweak the carby and set the idle . You're done ! . Scary , no ? BMW , HONDA C.A.R.T. Racing engines , Lycoming/Textron piston aircraft engines , racers and many others all swear by this method , as I said before , even after reading about it in various trade magazines and racing manuals etc. I dithered one full year before trying it , I'll never start another fresh engine any other way . The deal is this : piston rings need pressure against the cylinder walls to properly bed in . Please to note , this is not mindless thrashing of a new engine nor is it " run it like you'll drive it " of other bullshit . Running the engine up to 3,000 RPM's increases the cylinder pressure and forces the rings to expand fully , bedding into the walls *perfectly* . I know there's quite a few web sites that cover this . Running the engine this fast when it's tight also increases the heat dramatically so it's critical to not allow varying of the RPM's nor to allow it to idle ~ break it in in 60 - seconds then go to bed or whatever , I usually do it in the late afternoon so I am forced to leave it sit overnight . I also like to use Kopper Kote aerosol spray on both sides of my head gaskets , overkill maybe but I never blow any head gaskets either .I hand the gasket up on a coat hanger then spray both sides , allow to tack up before spraying again , let dry fully before installing . I wish I could demonstrate on one of my engines before you try it , time slows down as the engine is howling along and smoking to beat the band but it does work . _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com